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With the 2024 presidential race beginning to unfold, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he believes that President Joe Biden will again earn the Democratic nomination — and the president likely win reelection if he runs on a strong progressive campaign.

"I think at this moment ... we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we're going to fight for a progressive agenda but we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House," Sanders said Sunday on "Face the Nation."

Sanders endorsed Mr. Biden in April. Sanders referenced several of those issues in underscoring what he believes is the importance of building "a strong progressive agenda" to win the presidency in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No more please can we just get normal human beings as presidential candidates and not whatever the fuck this has been?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don’t exist. Not in politics, at least. All we get are crooks and 80 year olds.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They don’t exist. Not in politics, at least. All we get are crooks and 80 year olds.

In a real way, both major parties are still fighting out the battles of the civil rights era, and are effectively led by people who came of age then. Unfortunately, that they (or their ideas) are still running the show in the way that they are means both parties are stuck in a particular past, forever trying to avoid the calamity they're fighting to un-do

The GOP's leadership is fighting like a wounded animal to un-do desegregation and Roe, and to dismantle voting rights and industrial regulation

The Dem's leadership have spent decades fighting super-hard to prevent their voters from advancing progressives out of primaries and into general elections. McGovern's loss in 1972, they think, is forever evidence that progressives can't win and their subsequent curb-stomping of progressives (denying them party support, fighting hard to prevent them from winning primaries) serves as evidence to their way of thinking that 'progressives can't win'.

That this last bit (progs can't win, never mind we make sure they can't, so you have to vote for what wins or else all is lost) begs the question it pretends to answer seems pretty obvious to me. It has the same energy as saying 'socialism doesn't work' and then pointing to socialist governments that 'didn't work' because CIA ran coups to depose them and replace them with right-wing dictatorships. Of course these things don't work when you kill them off, the whole argument becomes self-fulfilling and circular.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hence the error of a two party system; no one can afford to go out on a limb, especially now that literal Nazis are the alternative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Biden is a normal Politician. Someone with of a wealth of experience in different levels of government who was elected slightly late. People seem to forget that younger less experienced candidates seldom live up to their hype. Obama never lived up to his hype, despite imo being a very good President. When you aren't experienced you can run on all these ideals and naivety. You get into the job and the reality hit you like a freight train. We all need to not get lost in "Not Progressive Enough", awhile the other side is pushing Regressive policies; It's far easier to tear something down than it is to build it.