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Meta and Mastodon – What’s really on people’s minds? - Ian Betteridge (ianbetteridge.com)
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Ian Betteridge (of the "Betteridge's Law of Headlines") opines on the recent Meta (Facebook) / Fediverse controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The internet is federated, but you don’t see tier 1 ISPs de-peering each other over arguments on social media.

No, but they intentionally cripple peering to blackmail others into paying extra or move their data-centers into the network of these bad-actor ISPs. Happens all the time sadly.

Email (which IS a great analogy… exactly because of the precedent for combatting abuse at scale) is federated, and you don’t see major providers blackholing major providers.

Keyword "major". Everyone else is pretty much defederated these days, which is the point the article was trying to make.

Telephone networks and the banking system are both federated, and generally major players don’t de-peer other major players within established ecosystems.

Read up on history. You have this completely backwards. It took many years of government intervention to force them to open their networks. And in some countries banks still don't interoperate or charge obscene rates for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Read up on history. You have this completely backwards. It took many years of government intervention to force them to open their networks. And in some countries banks still don’t interoperate or charge obscene rates for it.

I have nothing backwards because I said nothing about cause and effect, you appear to have fabricated some historical error about regulation so you could have something to condescend to me about. But even so, regulators did not invent cross-network calls nor did they invent inter-bank transfers. Both of these industries had those things prior to regulatory mandates and went through "wild west" periods that have clear parallels to the fediverse today (the early 1900s for telephones and the 17th century for banks) when interoperation existed but was quite selective. My point was that mature federated ecosystems converge on valuing connectivity very highly, and the fact that this value was so clear in these two cases that it was eventually encoded in law supports rather than refutes that claim.