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If you gave the Ford CEOs income evenly among all the employees, it would be an extra $200 a year.
CEO-to-worker pay ratio isn't a particularly useful metric but it does a good job making people rightfully angry.
Maybe the point, which you're missing, is that nobody should be making that much money at a company.
Fair enough but the "we don't have the money" part is what doesn't really make sense. CEO compensation, however egregious, is still a very small part of total payroll.
Ok, now add in all the other C-suite execs and the board of directors
The board of directors is not on payroll, they're the owners, they get dividends or can sell part of the actions.
Shilling for millionaires?
Fuck off yo.
It's not meant to be taken literally, it's meant to show how ridiculously inverted the current distribution of wealth and resources is in virtually all major US industries. The point is that the money is there. It's just getting sucked up to the top.
I mean that's kinda up to the board of directors, isn't it?
"It's ok because other rich people are saying its fine to pay rich people a ton of money"
CEOs shouldn't be payed less, because I will be CEO of Apple in 10 years.
If you can't spell "paid" you probably don't know enough about how any of this works to have a strong opinion
If you think I can't have opinion on that because english is my second language, then I guess we are done, yes. Because I don't want to have anything to do with you.
I just haven't use that word in past time in a while and I forgot. Something felt weird while writing it, but I don't feel the need to spellcheck everything for somebody on the internet.
Couldve just not responded at all
So you're saying we'd only need to sacrifice the pay of one guy to get free or mostly-paid-off utilities or groceries or gas for an entire month for hundreds of thousands of people? Seems like a worthy sacrifice.
I don't think @[email protected] is saying CEOs should be defended, but rather that their income isn't a good measure for the rate of exploitation, because a great part of the companies profits that aren't retained are divided among the shareholders, that is arguably where the greatest theft lies.
We need to sacrifice the shareholders. You know, the real victims here...
#fuckyourdividends
Reich also went out his way to screw the working class. Citing him just shows someone is citing someone that is saying what they want to hear.
He went out of his way to screw people when he was in power.
At least he got minimum wage increased
He did not such thing. Congress has the power to set the minimum wage. Maybe you need to brush up on how bad this man destroyed the middle class.
Sure, he didn't specifically himself pass it, but he was Secretary of Labor and he lobbied for it. He's also the reason we have FMLA.
I don't think it's fair to say he "destroyed" the middle class.
Fmla is garbage. 12 weeks of unpaid time off
Yes it provides job protection but many people can’t afford that much unpaid time off.
It’s fair. He went against the unions to push nafta through which decimated the middle class. We say lots of high paying manufacturing jobs move to Mexico and Canada. That decimated the middle class and he knew it. You either defend unions or you don’t. He didn’t. It destroyed the middle class last
https://www.epi.org/blog/naftas-impact-workers/#:~:text=By%20establishing%20the%20principle%20that,end%20of%20World%20War%20II.
Can you recommend a place to start brushing up on that?
In what way did Robert Reich of all people "go out of his way to screw the working class"?
This should be good..
Guessing it's this:
Sounds more like him being wrong and/or lied to by the Clinton administration that was mostly far to the right of him on just about anything than any sort of malice on his part, much less "going out of his way to screw the working class"..