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leftists: there were war crimes being committed in ukraine before 2022, the country has a real nazi problem. please look up the UN reports
liberals: i refuse to do literally any research myself but theres definitely no evidence for that lol ur basically a capitalist
Every country has a Nazi problem. India has a Nazi program. The US has a Nazi problem. Ukraine has a Nazi problem and a Jewish leader, and it's being attacked by Russia, a country with a larger Nazi problem.
No, Ukraine has the most Nazis in power anywhere on Earth. They control the dept of the interior, the intelligence services, the upper brass of the military and are revered as heroes. Nowhere else on Earth has Nazis like Ukraine
If Russia has a bigger nazi problem, why is it Ukrainian soldiers who keep getting caught wearing nazi symbols? If Russia had a bigger nazi problem, I'd expect to see an absolute flood of pics of Russian soldiers wearing black suns, but we don't. Where's the equivalent of former Ukrainian president Poroshenko wearing a nazi patch, or the idolization of Bandera?
I've seen one picture of a Nazi fighting with the DPR, also there's the Rusich Group which is like a few dozen people.
But that's about it, the rest of the Nazis were from the Ukrainian side from what I saw.
Buddy, even just casually paying attention you should have heard 'Wagner Group'. Maybe you're just not looking too closely.
Russia used and then decapitated a fashy private military company, Ukraine hails their Nazis as national heroes and incorporated them into their government and military. I believe the claim was that Russia has a bigger Nazi problem. It should be no problem to find a mass of evidence of this - after all, Nazi symbols pop up constantly on photos of Ukrainian soldiers, yet when you ask about Russian Nazis you just get the same couple pictures again and again. Is the Rusisch group really comparable at all to Azov?
There are more images of Ukrainian Nazi symbols than Russian Nazi symbols for several reasons, including:
Overall, the greater media coverage of the conflict in Ukraine, the controversy surrounding the use of Nazi symbols by Ukrainian soldiers, and Russian propaganda have all contributed to there being more images of Ukrainian Nazi symbols than Russian Nazi symbols.
Citations:
[1] NYT on Ukraine's Nazi Imagery: It's 'Complicated' - FAIR.org https://fair.org/home/nyt-on-ukraines-nazi-imagery-its-complicated/
[2] Is there any truth to Russia's 'Ukrainian Nazis' propaganda? – DW – 12/03/2022 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-there-any-truth-to-russias-ukrainian-nazis-propaganda/a-63970461
[3] Illia Ponomarenko: Why some Ukrainian soldiers use Nazi-related insignia - The Kyiv Independent https://kyivindependent.com/illia-ponomarenko-why-some-ukrainian-soldiers-use-nazi-related-insignia/
[4] Why Have So Many Neo-Nazis Rallied to Ukraine's Cause? | Opinion - Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/why-have-so-many-neo-nazis-rallied-ukraines-cause-opinion-1804642
[5] Nazi Symbols on Ukraine's Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html
[6] Commentary: Ukraine's neo-Nazi problem - Reuters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY
Damn, really running defense for the nazis there.
Yes there are a shitload of photos of open nazis in the Ukrainian army, but "it's complicated" I guess.
not like that Mr. I wanna demonstrate the Central Point !
Even if that was all true, why don’t we just let the nazi countries fight each other? Why on earth are we funding, training and arming any nazis at all?
What percentage of the Ukrainian population are you writing off as Nazi's? Which country would you have a problem with Russia invading and swallowing up if not Ukraine?
I am completely opposed to arming, funding and training nazis, full stop
Dont wish unto Ukraine what you dont want to happen to ukraine ...