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Philip Paxson's family are suing the company over his death, alleging that Google negligently failed to show the bridge had fallen nine years earlier.

Mr Paxson died in September 2022 after attempting to drive over the damaged bridge in Hickory, North Carolina.

A spokesperson for Google said the company was reviewing the allegations.

The case was filed in civil court in Wake County on Tuesday.

Mr Paxson, a father of two, was driving home from his daughter's ninth birthday party at a friend's house and was in an unfamiliar neighbourhood at the time of his death, according to the family's lawsuit.

His wife had driven his two daughters home earlier, and he stayed behind to help clean up.

"Unfamiliar with local roads, he relied on Google Maps, expecting it would safely direct him home to his wife and daughters," lawyers for the family said in a statement announcing the lawsuit.

"Tragically, as he drove cautiously in the darkness and rain, he unsuspectingly followed Google's outdated directions to what his family later learned for nearly a decade was called the 'Bridge to Nowhere,' crashing into Snow Creek, where he drowned."

Local residents had repeatedly contacted Google to have them change their online maps after the bridge collapsed in 2013, the suit claims.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Local residents had repeatedly contacted Google to have them change their online maps after the bridge collapsed in 2013, the suit claims.

Barriers that were normally placed across the bridge entrance were missing due to vandalism, according to the Charlotte Observer.

The lawsuit is also suing three local companies, arguing they had a duty to maintain the bridge.

That’s a lot of fucking negligence.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Barriers that were normally placed across the bridge entrance were missing due to vandalism

vandalism? What were these “barriers”, a handful of orange cones? At minimum they should have put some concrete jersey barriers there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Really. It's a collapsed death bridge, FFS.

These "vandals" should have needed industrial machinery to remove the barriers that should have been there.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I came here thinking it recently collapsed and Google Maps just never updated.

It collapsed a decade ago, and both Google Maps and local ~~maintainers~~ organizations (whoever maintains the roads) dropped the ball. You'd think someone would have built a wall blocking that road off by now

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah sorry, I meant people locally that maintain the roads/signs/barriers. I'll fix it to be more clear

I agree with your comment though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, the county and local authorities are supposed to keep the official maps of where the roads are up to date. That's actually one of the responsibilities of local government.

Google isn't going out and mapping all these roads, they're 99% just aggregating the data from all the different jurisdictions and making sure they play nice with each other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google is not at fault here, not at all. If at all, Google is just responsible for a not fully up to date product, which could enrage consumers at worst. If that guy literally couldn't see the road he also was unable to stop for an animal or even human.
It's not Google's responsibility to drive responsible for their users; drivers need to do so safely with or without help from maps of any kind.
If the false information had caused an emergency vehicle to be misguided which led to the death of the patient I would agree that Google is at some fault.

Other than that, the companies responsible for caring about the bridge should be at fault here somewhat too, even though it's not their responsibility to - again - ensure a driver can stop in time at their current speed and the given weather conditions. Yet they should mark a road as dead end and block the road as done at eg. natural cliffs where roads are ending, with proper material, so blocks of concrete stopping even tanks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is not uncommon to go over 20 at night, even in the rain.

This accident could have easily happened without a GPS, because it is a very bad location and has no warnings, however without a GPS it is also unlikely he would have found himself in this area, and it did lead him directly to a road that it had been told was not passable. They do not have a large part of the liability, but they should have a responsibility to warn their users when people have told them about an extreme safety hazard for ten years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It's not uncommon to speed, drink drive, etc, that doesn't mean those things are right. There's all sorts of obstacles that might end up on a regular road that you should be able to stop for. Fallen rocks, fallen trees, pedestrians, cyclists, parked cars, traffic tailbacks.

And remember, the bridge did have warnings, which happened to be removed by vandals. That's not the city's fault.