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It's the dunk tank.

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Don’t know why he wastes time criticizing him since JT doesn’t do anything wrong. Also really funny that him and other commenters are complaining about The Deprogram being like Chapo.

Upon deeper research, it turns out Day used to post on the subreddit to dunk on BadEmpanada, which is funny since Day himself has strong BadEmpanada vibes.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where did I suggest Maoist insurgency? Is that really the only options in your view? Guerrilla war immediately or succ dem reformism?

The high water mark of leftism in the west was during the Great Depression when there was a large and powerful unionized working class involved in a central Marxist party, a party that worked with the global proletarian movements abroad. That is the style to emulate, not weatherman adventurism or Berniecrat social imperialism

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

No, I'm being flippant, which isn't helpful. I'm sorry, I've been unnecessarily combative.

Reform or radicalism will not come until there is a consequential enough war-tien deprivation to actually affect the generalized working class in the U.S., whatever form it takes. Currently, modern unions will roll over if they receive even a portion of the pressure that they received in the 30's. They can make all noise they want, which is good, but they are not going reach anything close to a 'high water mark' unless the actual historical material circumstances support it. They can and historically have, been bought off. Maybe it could support a previously unknown radicalism of MMT socdems, maybe it could support a core Maoist resurgence, maybe it could support a radical unionism. My personal belief is that it will come from emergent historical forms of organizations, but we just don't know which ones yet, so it is pointless to fight about it.

Ultimately and personally, I think the Marxist view of the monetary economy is superior and more historically analytical, but I also genuinely don't think it matters that much where we are at this point historically. Personally, I've been able to turn many libertarian socialists into more Marxist thinkers using MMT as an entry point into structured economics. It's not an entry point for libs or socdems, it's an entry point for libertarian socialists. I support your view here, it would be nice if JT self-crits and discusses those problems in a later post. I just don't think we're at a point it matters to argue about it, imo any systemic thinking 'at all' is good. Propoganda is propoganda is propoganda. I could be wrong though.