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It seems every couple of years it's in danger to shut down. Is this a genuine thing, a political play or something else?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The video in the other comment is great, but doesn't really get into how useless this "tool" is for everyone. We never had a shutdown before the 80s, and they have turned into annual talking points. Each shutdown the rules are a bit different depending on length and if partial budgets get passed. Defense sometimes gets its own budget passed so they don't shutdown.

In a shutdown, federal employees don't work. It may sound like this will save the government money because people won't get paid for their non work. This isn't true, a vast majority of government employees continue to get paid, so the government is spending money it doesn't have and no work is getting done. Government contractors don't make new money during a shutdown. Large government contractors anticipate this and will plan a 14 day shutdown into their budget so they can keep working. This means they just have to over bill the government the rest of the year. Smaller contractors are the ones who actually get screwed out of pay and work, and usually subcontractors of contractors as well.

If it sounds like this doesn't help anyone, you'd be right. It's a bit of political theater that was more or less invented in the 80s so that congress can make the sitting president (probably from the opposing party) look bad. Government spending is never more inefficient than during a shutdown, so if you actually cared about spending, you would avoid them no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds horrible. What would the mechanism to dismantle this be?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People voting for people looking to actually get shit done or collectivelly weaken their power(which the latter wont happen)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How big of a part of population would one need to actually achieve anything?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People need to vote in half to get shit done, 2/3 if vetos are used, and 3/4 if it meant amendment levels