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Interesting why would they leave if they don't consider Wagner that much of a threat ๐ค Also what happens if Wagner actually manage to get into Moscow and their "enemies" are not there? Would they seize the media to broadcast for people to join them? What else can they even do in this scenario? Not sure what the game plan is here.
Putin has to say that Wagner isn't that much of a threat to keep people calm and following his orders.
I would imagine that Prigozhin would do the same thing that any other person attempting a coup would do, seize control of government buildings and other important facilities and attempt to convince the public that he is in charge.
For all of Russia's massive size, the vast majority of its political/industrial base exists in Moscow and St. Petersburg so no, Russia will not nuke Moscow
The best answer anyone can give to those questions are "I don't know". Anything else is a guess.
My guess is, if Wagner takes Moscow and Putin's not there, Putin is done. Gorbachev wasn't in Moscow when the last coup happened. But once a leader has lost control to this degree, it's hard for anyone to respect them as a leader again.
If Wagner takes Moscow, it's game over for Putler, His only option would be to split the country with him as the leader of the break away region.
Now, the million dollar question, what happens with the nukes? The long range balistic missiles would probably fall into Prigozhin's hands, but what happens with the ones in Belarus? Which side will Lukashenko support? Will he let Putin use this tactical weapons against Wagner troops or hand them over to Prigozhin?
So many unknowns right now.
Taking a physical city doesn't really do much. You have to take over the political structure, which can move around. Short of taking the whole country I don't see how this will work.
Adolf Biden and Hitlerensky are not winning, sweetie. Keep dreaming and keep being an armchair analyst, it suits you.
calling a jewish man Hitler really is a classic
Calling a Zionist the same as all Jews is incredibly fascistic.
can you cite the specific sentence where i said "the same as all jews", or even where i said the words 'same' or 'all' anywhere in that sentence
am i correctly understanding that you are calling me a fascist because i called zelensky, a jewish man whose family includes holocaust victims and a soldier that fought in the liberation from nazi germany, a jewish man
A neofascist always loves playing the obtuse ignoramus and delusion cards. Used to putting them into their places.
im assuming thats a no
if pretending that someone said something and subsequently calling them a fascist for it is 'putting them into their places' id imagine youve got experience
are you able to explain how calling a jewish man a jewish man is fascistic yet
Prigozhin viralled a fake video to trigger Wagners, and now Wagners seem to be calming down from freshest news I could procure. Best to not be a liberal and cheer for NATO, until the dust settles down.