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What big update? Wayland has been pretty usable (on AMD, anyway) for a while now.
Presumably Plasma 6.0, which will fix a large number of remaining Wayland issues via Qt 6.
Will that make it more usable for nvidia users? I hope to someday try SteamOS with nvidia but I think most of the wayland issues are what's preventing that.
EOS and KDE are basically what SteamOS is running on the back-end. They use Plasma as their DE, and they use Arch as their OS. It's just highly tailored to their hardware since it's all AMD-based and AMD drivers have been open source forever.
There are offshoot projects that build from the SteamOS source and then include Nvidia drivers, but I haven't found one that was as functional as just running Endeavor and customizing it in the way that a Steam Deck would be designed for gaming.
Yeah that's basically what I'm doing now but using xorg instead of wayland. So I cant use stuff like gamescope and the steam big picture is horribly laggy for whatever reason with nvidia cards.
Next GPU upgrade I'll go team red but until then I'm stuck with the nvidia card.
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland/Nvidia for KDE specifically, see bottom of https://arewewaylandyet.com/ for others
Don't bet on it. For a while NVidia had hired a guy to implement EGLStreams support in KWin and other issues around supporting the Nvidia driver but since a year he's gone: https://invent.kde.org/users/ekurzinger/activity
Since then they've made their driver open source.
No, they didn't. They open sourced the kernel module interfacing with the actual driver that's in user space. The actual OpenGL, Vulkan, etc. implementations are all closed source.
Also their "open source" commit updates are one-shot for any version updates and nothing in between. Makes it pretty hard to contribute to.
It's not great on Nvidia. KDE's dev team have announced a big Plasma update, specifically focused on Wayland support to be released around February.
I have a 3090 and some stuff works, some stuff doesn't. I am forced to use it because X will lock refresh rates to the rate of the lowest monitor, so my 165hz screens were not being used to their fullest until I swapped over to Wayland which supports multiple monitor refresh rates.
Often I will find system components freezing up. The task bar, for example, will often stop being useable and freeze up. I have had the digital clock widget freeze up on me, which requires a relog to fix. It also doesn't totally work on transparent themes, rendering them without the translucency.
Thankfully this has been tracked down, and will be fixed for Plasma 6. If you run into it, you can hit Alt+F2 and run
kwin_wayland --replacewhich will restart the shell.If you go into edit mode, and edit the task bar widget that shows your running applications, disable the option that shows window previews upon hovering over the application. Apparently that is the thing that causes the renderer to fail on non Intel GPU systems. Here's the bug report that goes over the whole history if you're interested.
Definitely feel you on the overall Nvidia Wayland KDE issues. I really wish I was in a position to be able to pickup an AMD GPU.
Awesome, thanks!
There's still weird bugs with Plasma Wayland unrelated to GPUs too. For whatever reason, dragging a file from a notification (e.g. Spectacle when a screenshot is saved) to Discord will make the shell just quit and restart...
On AMD is usually great but still has bugs, klipper with xwayland is a mess and cant be disabled, for example. But on Nvidia is ... Bad