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Ontario MPP apologizes after Israel-Gaza comment sparks calls for resignation
(toronto.ctvnews.ca)
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
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Her statement really wasn't against Israel, it was against apartheid and enforced colonization. It said nothing about Israel
Hmmm I wonder who she was talking about then
If being anti-apartheid because it leads to violence makes people uncomfortable... that is not a condemnation of a religion but a call to action to everyone's humanity.
I cannot believe you are unable to see the matter, I think you are just arguing in bad faith because you oppose it
I'm not acting in bad faith, a reasonable person who sees a bad thing that happens, wants to stop bad things from happening, and reasonable people have looked at this situation and come to the reasonable conclusion that much of the violence is due to the apartheid and oppression of a non-citizen population inside Israel.
I think many people have their heart in the right place, how do we stop the violence, we disagree on how to best achieve that, but calling people antisemitic for participating in the discourse just serves to polarize and exclude voices.
The issue is the timing of the message not the message. Itโs not complex
Ahh yes, the "now is not the time to talk about gun control" argument that rears it's ugly head after every school shooting in the US.
Itโs not even remotely equivalent
Itโs akin to the argument of โxโ being a criminal so he deserves to die that people bring up after every cop killing
It must be nice to just completely avoid all the history and abuse and just focus on the here and now, I bet it makes everything incredibly black and white.
Lol
Continue to wonder why there was a negative response then
When will it be a good time? Because apparently it wasn't a good time before the attack since a certain Palestinian-American in congress has been accused of anti-semetism since taking office because she calls out the genocidal government.
That was a good time for it
Its extremely complex and interrelated, and apartheid isn't a incidental "nice to have" secondary issue to resolve "later", to many people its the direct cause of the violence that is dominating the news and breaking our hearts.
This is what a pressure boiler looks like when applied to people with no options and no hope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyn7PmwXJxY
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thanks for the adjacent lecture but itโs not complex at all
People have spoken out against the Israeli regime many times before without being asked to resign
The whole issue is timing of the comment
If not now, then when? It's never a good time to do the right thing.
Anytime before the attack, though if it was just before they would still have to retract
In a month or two itโll be fine again
If she doesn't have to say the country's name for you to know who she's talking about maybe that country should stop doing the bad thing instead of silencing people who are calling for human rights.
Sure but thatโs unrelated to the issue with the timing of the statement