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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Ok. Chrome sucks. Brave sucks. What’s good. Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 243 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Firefox with good plugins is even better!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely! Another really good fork of FF to check out is Floorp I'm thinking of making it my main and going steady :) https://floorp.app/en/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless browser fingerprinting is your concern, in which case the most generic, unmodified browser is best (e.g. Tor).

But that is a huge topic for another thread.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Overall you‘re right but in which world is tor generic and unmodified 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not possible to identify you if you use the tor browser without changing the window size or any other settings, because the fingerprint is literally the same amongst everyone that uses it this way. So you kind of blend in with the masses, it's neither generic nor unmodified, I give you that :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Tor browser is a modified version of Firefox, but you are not meant to modify the Tor Browser, in order for everyone using the Tor Browser to look the same and blend in. This is done for maximum privacy and anonymity.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

And LibreWolf is better. It's Firefox with all of the privacy settings preconfigured and uBlock Origin preinstalled. Also, crap like Sponsored sites and Pocket are removed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Been very happy with Librewolf. Thought it would be another one of those softwares recommended by linux-losers but which never actually works, but it's quite the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is LibreWolf still a version or two behind on Gecko?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK the most recent Firefox version is 118.0.2 and LibreWolf is based on that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Word. Last I had looked, they lagged a version or two behind on the base FF version. Likely just a lack of contributors or something then. Ty.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is Librewolf different from Mullvad browser, which is supposed to be Tor browser (hardened FF) without the Tor?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Mullvad Browser is based on the Tor browser, but it doesn't use the Tor network, whereas LibreWolf is based on Firefox + arkenfox user.js. LibreWolf is better for normal day-to-day browsing, where as Mullvad is meant to be used for high privacy/security tasks. Mullvad is kinda hard to daily drive, because it can't be configured to save cookies, you can't really use extensions and it lacks some other things. These features were removed in the Tor browser, because as I said, it's meant for high thread model usage. Edit: I like the Mullvad browser and I use it myself, but not as my daily driver.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the only thing greater than Firefox is Librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Or hardened Firefox, which is pretty much the same thing (I use Librewolf myself for convenience).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I love Firefox, used it for years. However I eventually had to switch because of weird bugs and issues with functioning sites. In my sparing personal usage I didn’t run into many issues, but using it at work I ran into really weird issues all the time.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm team Firefox, very happy here. There's a small amount of optional telemetry to disable to maximise your privacy, and it has the best plugins because there's a lot of choice and they're not purposely crippled.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Plus you can use pretty much any plugin on mobile. this is the biggest feature for me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like Firefox because it allows, Atleast for now, customization via userchrome.css files. I once tried Edge and hated it's bloated right click context menu. Meanwhile, in Firefox, I can trim down the context menu to only basic elements.

I do wish Firefox had proper PWA support, but otherwise I have been using it as the main browser on both PC and phone(since uBlock Origin is supported on it, the only Chromium browser to support it is Kiwi Browser on Android).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@kirk781 @Deebster I’m using this, I’m not satisfied with the solution but that’s what we’ve got https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's probably an addon for Firefox that gives some PWA support

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There does exists one. But when I last tried it, the experience was worse than what a native integration would give. It wasn't streamlined as in other browsers. It doesn't matter much since I only use YouTube Music as a PWA, which I have a relegated to another window in another browser.

Off topic, but screw you Google, for not giving a native app. Spotify meanwhile has command line third party clients even(looks at ncspot) for Premium users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Check out this custom YouTube Music desktop client: https://github.com/th-ch/youtube-music. It has neat features like an adblocker and a download feature and many more things built-in and it's open source. It's available for Windows, macOS and Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox and Mull (a Firefox fork) have your privacy in mind. They work as good as Chrome and don't fuck you without asking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There is Fennec available on F Droid that is basically Firefox with some blobs removed. Not as hardened as Mull but still a worthy option. There is one more browser based on Firefox called Iceraven for Android but it is not available on F Droid even. Though it supports a much wider variety of extensions than mobile Firefox does as of now. The downside is that it gets security updates usually later than Firefox, being an independent project.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Firefox is the least sucky.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox, or on mobile, Fennec. It's a Firefox clone with some added functionality, maintained by the developers of the F-Droid app store themselves, so highly trusted & fully compatible to stay in sync with the desktop Firefox.

For those rare occasions where a website absolutely doesn't work with FF, and you must use it for some reason, I'd suggest Chromium portable on Desktop, and Kiwi Browser on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have Kiwi installed and like that desktop Chrome extensions can be installed on it for the odd occasion. However, IIRC, it is updated infrequently and isn't recommended as a daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd never use it as a daily driver, really just for websites that absolutely don't work with Firefox/Fennec. Happens very infrequent if at all though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cool, that kinda looks like vivaldi except based on firefox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's the closest I've been able to find to vivaldi. Unfortunately no one does workspaces as good as vivaldi, but their implementation deleted all my workspaces one day, with no back up, and that was after several other total wipes of my windows/tabs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It’s got its problem but it’s my preference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Vivaldi is a good Chrome replacement.

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