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It's a Hamas channel! They're not warnings, they're threats! And they're recruiting! And they know those users are sharing video of their attrocities in other Hamas groups! And the al-Qassam Brigades have a public channel too!
The mole is out in the open, sticking its fingers in its ears, and laughing at us, and Durov is saying "yeah, that's a fine mole, no idea why I'd whack it." It's gaining steam! They're openly using the names of terrorist organizations and recruiting new members constantly and telegram isn't even considering a response.
No, it absolutely will not.
He referenced Ashkelon. There are zero Israelis in Ashkelon following Hamas on Telegram. Israel knows when to evacuate its citizens, and unlike Hamas, actually does so when necessary. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Hamas is threatening Israeli civilians before targeting those civilians. THE THREAT IS THE FIRST CAUSE OF THE TERROR. This is what terrorism is! They threaten violence on civilians, they do the violence they threatened, and then they celebrate it by sharing videos! They threaten, plan, and celebrate on telegram, out in the open!
There's a funnel. They start on twitter, just kind of innocently saying "follow me on Telegram." Then they say "alright, this broadcast channel will tell you exactly what token to buy, and when! Do exactly that!" It's a pump and dump scheme, some people fall for it. And then the real rubes get into those 1-on-1 secret chats with the scammers where they go ahead and give out their private info.
A tech company like Telegram could, in theory follow this funnel through the unencrypted channels. It's obvious enough from the information you and I have.
These channels are all operating openly. You know they're all pump and dump scams, right? They're not in secret chats, they're huge channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
Can we stop pretending that ignoring the problem is a better solution?
Look. I don't support Hamas in the same way that I don't support the Israeli government. They're both basically terrorist organisations at this point. Shelling Gaza with no regard for civilians and children is just as bad as targeting children and civilians for the purposes of a terrorist attack. Your own article disputes what you've said. But if you've made up your mind that one group is worse than the other and therefore one group deserves to be punished (as it would appear based on your comment), then I don't see the point in this discussion.
This thread has quickly become less about scammers (as you first claimed) and more about giving a voice to terrorist organisations, which I don't necessarily agree is a good thing but is something that won't be stopped by deleting a channel. More will pop up. Disenfranchised people who have been hurt repeatedly will act out. Relieving them of an avenue to voice their opinions doesn't stop them and it often makes things worse.
Nobody is forcing you or anyone to use telegram. You've gotten increasingly more upset (it would seem based on your replies) that I am not automatically condemning Hamas or Telegram's CEO and you go out of your way to ignore my questions about privacy when it concerns private messages. Additionally you are hyper focused on the Hamas channels angle as if it's the only thing in your original post.
Israeli's aren't the only civilians dying in the crossfire between Hamas and the Israeli government.