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And this dumb ass shit is how you get a second term of trump you fucking troglodytes.
Cheering to eat shit because you're being threatened with eating a bigger shit
Never advocating to stop eating shit
Hey guys let's destroy humanity to uphold "principles"
What exactly do you think the bombs being sold right now by the US government/president to Israel are doing?
Yes it's the principled voters destroying humanity not the ghouls capitulating to the defense contractors
You helped elect Trump, no matter how many times you lie to everyone about it
Hillary helped elect trump more than I did
Yeah you morons can't accept reality which is you contributed ignorantly even though a toddler could see it coming
Homie you're mad at the wrong person
But I guess I'm easier to bully on the internet than politicians
All they've done here is insult people with dehumanizing slurs.
You say as you vote in a way that leads to Trump type leaders who demonstrably ruin the world.
A lot of times it's even like, "don't talk about how bad the shit tastes! If you grimace you're gonna get the bigger shit! Your natural reaction to eating shit is something you need to deny and suppress!"
Accepting it's shit is step one, if you can't even openly vocalize or emotionally express your discontent, how is anyone supposed to begin to organize. How do you know who else doesn't like shit if everyone is just silently consenting to it.
As a queer person with friends whose literal well-being is in danger if Trump gets another term, but who are safe under Democrats, fuck you. Your privilege is how you can act this way. Refusing to vote for the "lesser of two evils" is a nice way to say you don't give a fuck about marginalized people.
Yes spend your time fucking me instead of fucking the democrats running the worst candidates they can find. You definitely understand the point and will battle to eat the little shit instead of ways to stop eating shit at all.
Thanks for further making my point for me. I'm sure your principles will keep my trans friends safe.
Neither will Biden
Weird, guess reality has been missed by you. Lots of protections put in place over the last few years, lots of attacks during the Trump administration. Stop making excuses for your apathy.
Why?
Liberal take right now is, "I support Biden 100%, it's just a shame how the genocide his government is enabling and vocally supporting is hurting his poll numbers."
It's not like Trump wouldn't be doing the same thing sending weapons to a fascist government, I mean that's American foreign policy 101, but it takes a particularly sadistic American perspective to care more about how it makes them look in the polls than the horrors inflicted by the state.
Something tells me you don't know what people think since this is not accurate and indicates a level of stupidity I won't further respond to
And yet
Search Google news or similar aggregate for "Biden poll numbers Israel Gaza Palestine" and you will find many liberal pundits making this exact point. Public opinion doesn't support this genocide but the government does, should tell you something there.
For the second point you only have to have a cursory glance at US-sponsored regime changes and coups, the right/fascist group supporting foreign private business interests is the one the US supports.
Who honestly gives a fuck about pundits? I don't, because my IQ is over 70.
Inconvenient for this idiot ^ https://lemmy.world/post/8014046
If you truly didn't care you would agree with the criticisms that apply rather than paradoxically dismiss them. It's wrong that this media apparatus, supported by partisan political and corporate interests, divorced from public sentiment, cares more about Biden's poll numbers than genocide, correct? This is very easy to agree with unless you are personally invested in this political system to the point where you can't criticize aspects of it that are engaged in genocide.
"Don't criticize Biden for supporting genocide, that's how you get another Trump term." What can you criticize if not genocide, this is fucked.
Ignorant morons go on the block list.
Ignorant morons go on the block list.
Please do block me if you agree with this human taint
It's ignorant and moronic to criticize a president and government for enabling genocide? Okay.
"Don't criticize the genocide supporting president, it might help the other genocide supporting president." Accepting how fucked this is is a pre-requisite for any change that could happen so good luck with the status quo there.
You can't maintain an effective echo chamber without calling people stupid and blocking them, get with it