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late edit: DISCLAIMER: The pictured map is not actually a representation of the territories before colonisation. It's a hypothetical map of what countries there might have been had the continent not been colonised, thus all the names and borders are fictional and have never existed.

For good actual maps, check out native-land.ca.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My wife is Ojibwe and her tribe illegally migrated several hundred miles west about one generation before Europeans arrived, taking land that belonged to other natives.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every single person alive lives on land that has been “stolen” at least a time or two in our history. Focusing only on the horror of Europeans colonization is just one more way in which white people put themselves at the center of the human story.

I assure you that people with skin of every color have fought wars of conquest. It is not some special trick that only white Europeans could do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Blaming white people for blaming white people is a bit odd. They get a lot of flak from all over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@Pohl sure, but the reason European colonization of other places is focused on so much is due to scale and technology.

Scale and tech are what separates, say, the Shoah from Russian pogroms.

Scale and tech are also why so many people are still living with the aftermath. And that aftermath is why it's still relevant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Illegally? What law did they violate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I lived up there (northern MN and WI) and there's a surprising amount of tension between Natives and Caucasians... then I found out that fact, that they'd come over and kicked out other tribes based on some wild rice vision, and was wtf?