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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Inflated. There are lots of instances with 20-80k bots.

Edit: https://the-federation.info/platform/73 . order by total users and then see the total active users. Totally different.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a bummer how they removed captchas in the latest Lemmy update. We really need them now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As I said in another comment. The captcha system was dependent on websockets, and exactly what the Devs have said, the captcha system was easy to break. I'm sure my old OCR python 2 code could have broken it.

So when we ditched the inefficient websocket system the captcha system stopped working

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Tbh I'm not sure now much captias actually help, they are trivial to bypass, you can literally do it with a browser extention

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So sad I thought I'm this was for real :(

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's still a stupid amount of active users in 1-2 weeks on a platform that had 2k active users for quite a long time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry to burst your bubble!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What is the theory around the prevalence of bots? Is it people trying to snatch up desirable names or what?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Who knows. They are not even good names, the usernames are usually part of the email. It's usually super easy to figure out. Captcha's were dependent on web sockets, so once the Devs got rid of those the captchas broke anyway.

Tinfoil hat mode With enough accounts you could influence the algorithm by voting up content you want vs content you don't want. Or basically DDoS servers. As every like on a post for a community is sent to every other instance that federates with that community.

Or it could be people creating accounts to inflate the numbers of the fediverse to write this content and make silly headlines like these.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think most of the bots at the moment don't have any real purpose other than showing that it is possible to create so many bots. Gathering from posts on the subject and the modlog, many bots have far from a natural name in the form of [random word][long number]. I suspect many of these hots have been created by the same person and/or script.

It will be a matter of time though before real problems start occuring if the sign up process does not become more secure. Fortunately, several pull requests exist for this at the Lemmy GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Influencing the public, I would guess.