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A box of DevOps (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

YAML would such a nice language for config files but then it turns out that "no" is falsy and so a list of Scandinavian countries turns from

  • se
  • fi
  • no

into

  • "se"
  • "fi"
  • False

I wish there was like a JSON5 equivalent for YAML that just reduces its scope lol
(and no, TOML also looks ugly :P)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Norway is false and Finland isn't in Scandinavia

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

S W E D E N

S W E D E N

S W E D E N

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is definitely a failing of yaml. Though, I feel that generally it's the sort of thing you learn once the hard way, then it sticks with you pretty well.

Also I'm glad there are more anti-toml folks are out there, feels like I'm taking crazy pills when people say it is "simple" and "elegant". IMO it's uglier than old-school ini format - at least it's more strictly defined but that doesn't really sway me to convert

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Which is better for structured data?

  • elegant, human readable, indentation sensitive language that's great for deep nesting but has some weird idiosyncrasies with some dynamically typed parsers being too smart for their own good
  • glorified ini

The choice is clear

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

TOML isn't elegant at all but damn, it is really simple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If by simple you mean "can't count from 1 to 10 in a loop" and by elegant you mean "easier to understand than a one line perl script" then sure...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're looking for StrictYaml

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Looks interesting, I'll check it out, thanks :D