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I have an issue in general with scifi totally ignoring the existence of bicycles, but star trek is particularly fun to think about since in so many situations beaming down in an away team with electric mountain bicycles would be incredibly useful in a basic utilitarian sense. Like shuttles, bicycles could be treated as disposable if needed, you can always replicate more right?

You also don't need to build up any infrastructure on a planet for bicycles to function as transit system for huge amounts of people. A starship could arrive into a humanitarian aid situation, quickly adjust a bicycle blueprint for whatever bipedal humanoid lived on the planet, replicate a metric sh*&ton of alien bicycles and beam them down to the planet on mass. It wouldn't require longterm maintenance, lengthy training of local aliens on how to use, or return visits to resupply complex parts. A starship could drop bicycles, spare parts and maintenance gear and then leave and the citizens of that planet would be able to benefit from that for... decades? Even more? I am sure the instruction manuals would get super long with all the alien languages though....

Even if bicycles weren't being used as tools or transportation in a far future like star trek, there is no reason humans would stop wanting to bicycle recreationally or for exercise. Also you could go on crazy mountain biking rides on the holodeck right? I can't see how people wouldn't be doing that all the time along with skiing, surfing and other sports that are scary but exhilarating. Further, I think it is likely most bipedal aliens would have discovered bicycles at some point along the development into advanced technological civilizations. It would be really weird if only humans discovered them.

TNG in particular is egregious for not having bicycles since the NCC-1701 is so cavernous that unless you always used the turbolifts you probably are going to need a bicycle to get anywhere quickly...

What do yall think? Should star trek have more bicycles?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now that you mention it, yes. However it's probably so deeply ingrained in American authors that bicycles seem like uncool garbage that's not very useful so they don't even think about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I am so tired of sci-fi futuristic cities that just replicate a highway in the sky complete with crazy stressful traffic and all. It is kind of embarrassing how big of a flaw this is for sci-fi art when a fundamental aspect of the genre is the attempt to gaze far into real and unreal futures.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

trek has had at least one place where people actively reject modernity because they simply don't like it, so there's that.

i think the expanse is the best portrayal of the future i've seen in terms of this, things generally look like they do now except everything's walkable and public transport is utterly bog standard, and they casually use holograms for shop signs.

just like how we're basically the same as in the past, except walking around with technology in our pockets that was idle speculation 100 years ago and would be considered magic 1000 years ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Interesting, I have heard the expanse is good and that it is more realistic scifi than most. Honestly the reason I haven't watched it is that people only really seem to mention the fact that the space combat is realistic in the expanse and I just don't give two flying sh$%s how realistic a scifi universe's space wars are... I am watching star trek for a reason and that reason is that it isn't myopically obsessed with war and gritty dark grim universes like 99% of the rest of scifi is sigh. I am fine with space wars, I am fine with grim or dark visions of the future to a certain extent but most scifi can't ever seem to tell stories about literally anything else. Everything is just black mirror it feels like.

On the subject of black mirror though, I really want to see a black mirror parody episode where bicycles aren't invented until the 2020s when a techbro invents the "segway 2.0" which is just a normal bicycle. Everyone becomes so addicted to this invention that it tears apart families, society and economies (no more cars being sold!?!? no oil being sold?? all the car plants close and the economy crashes). Kids overthrow society because they all get bicycles and become addicted to them first and no one can stop them because they are too fast...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ST:Picard showed that Earth basically had a public transporter network around the world. It is how Picard goes from his vineyard in France to Starfleet headquarters. So, it isn't all car flying cities.

However, if these are the people making decisions to deploy resources, why would they think of having ground vehicles at all? The only reason why the dune buggy was in Nemesis was because Patrick Stewart wanted it. Otherwise, it doesn't really make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I have already made my arguments about this elsewhere on this thread.