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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Would Biden break an Occupy like Obama did?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Obama didn't need to break the occupy wall street moment. That moment was so unorganized that it broke itself.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The media had their role in it too by setting a 'tone' for the whole thing by treating it like a joke from the start and being sure to always interview the kookiest of people whenever they'd visit one of the encampments. Alternatively, conservative outlets like Fox would paint the protestors like a bunch of entitled freeloaders who just wanted to cause problems.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That clip of the wall street tycoons drinking champagne and laughing at the protesters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They weren’t Wall Street tycoons. They were just people attending a wedding.

Why does this misinformation keep spreading?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because, even though that specific photo wasn't about rich people laughing at the protests, you damn well know they all did just that. We just don't have pictures.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I get the symbolism. But calling something that it isn’t is just flat out disingenuous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

And then the Democrat Party co-opted it and destroyed the value but making Occupy a meme factory that says things like trump sucks ass! Biden gives the best handies! LIKE AND SHARE IF YOU AGREE!!!"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think that's because leftist movements with leaders get Fred Hampton'd.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The amount of figures within OWS and BLM that died under strange circumstances is pretty not comforting knowing the organizations who do things like that have near impunity and control of information.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Occupy had no central leadership and nobody on earth seems to be able to accept orgs like that. Seems we've been conditioned to believe that everything must be run in a hierarchy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

If you were there you developed an appreciation for sanitation. I dropped off food a few times and it smelled horrific.

Some organization is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Decades of “heros journey” formatted TV and movies does that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The other side of that "hero" coin is whistleblowers in movies/TV who, in rl, are vilified beyond even the real criminals who tank the world's economy selling banded, illegally-authorized mortgages as good investments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure, that's why they had the police beat up protesters and journalists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You think police wouldn't have beat them up if they were organized?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they were organized enough you'd just have a pile of dead cops when it was over

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you'd have one dead cop and every protestor dead or in jail. One cop dying is all they need to throw away what little restraint they might have had up to that point. They will kill the people who resist and arrest the ones who don't. If they arrest you they'll drag the trial out for years, by the time you get found guilty and sentenced to a year of probation you'll have spent a decade behind bars.

The problem is that this is not a fair fight, it is a suicide mission for whoever decides to take on the police.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, if it goes down like that you weren't organized enough

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You're either trolling or dillusional if you think that. We live in a police state, if you're out in the open they will just kill you and if you take shelter they will literally lay seige to you and burn your house down.