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Sam Altman ‘was working on new venture’ before sacking from OpenAI (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the OpenAI board was in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO, just a day after he was ousted.

He must be laughing so hard now... :-)

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That hasn’t been confirmed at all. No one from the board has commented even anonymously as far as I’ve seen. This is a play by Altman and his supporters to try and influence public opinion and make the board seem incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Maybe. Allegedly MS is throwing their weight around to try to force it, which does seem plausible.

Though I hope the board stands firm.

Ilya is much more valuable long term to the company than Altman, and frankly the latter leaving is the first time in about a year I've been bullish about OpenAI's prospects.

They really walked their core product back in the past few months despite expanding their productization of it towards low hanging short-term fruit.

Ilya's vision is spot on with where transformers are headed as complexity increases, and is one of the only scientists I've seen that really sees that horizon.

If Altman was standing in the way of getting there, it's better that he's gone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you overall though I will say that MS throwing their weight around is really just a lot of hot air at the end of the day. They don’t have a board seat and they were told from the start that their invest should be seen as more of an investment. The non-profit is in control and MS can’t change that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No, but they are allegedly threatening to bar OpenAI from Azure, and you can't be a leading AI company these days without access to supercomputers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

What is ilyas vision?

Also, being right about the tech doesn't mean you will be successful. You have to balance short term wins with long term gains. Often engineers and technical folks struggle with that process because it often means compromising theor utopian ideals in the short term.

I think it's short sighted to dismiss Sam's contribution to their success and amplify Ilyas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ilya had seemed to be more of the closed corporate yes man, more interested in profit paths than open ethical development, as evidenced by his various appearances when unfiltereed questions have been allowed. That's not an improvement over Altman.