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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why would that save energy? It's going to be resistive heat, which at best matches the water heater. Some models in the US include a heating element, but it's more of a convenience. The vast majority are simply connected to the hot water line, since that's why it's there.

Also, let's talk numbers. From what I could Google, EU dishwashers use 1-1.5KWh/load, while US dishwashers use an average of 1.15KWh/load. Certainly there are more efficient models, but this shows that there isn't a significant difference in energy usage between them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

your energy calculations are forgetting the energy cost of the pre-heated water, it's the appliance equivalent of an offshore tax haven!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do European homes not have hot water heaters?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They do, they're just not connected to the dishwasher so don't need to be factored into its energy usage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your system - Add cold water to water heater and heat (using energy). Keep at required heat until needed, could be a whole day or more (using energy). Pump hot water through cold pipes to dishwasher, losing energy. Reheat (using energy)

Our system - add cold water to device directly. Heat (using energy)

I couldn't explain it any clearer so I'll fuck off now