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Literally just mainlining marketing material straight into whatever’s left of their rotting brains.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don’t understand how we can even identify sentience.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Nobody does and anyone claiming otherwise should be taken with cautious scrutiny. There are compelling arguments which disprove common theses, but the field is essentially stuck in metaphysics and philosophy of science still. There are plenty of relevant discoveries from neighboring fields. Just nothing definitive about what consciousness is, how it works, or why it happens.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and until it can be identified, saying that a LLM treat printer is surely approaching sentience is pure marketing hype.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yea it's like saying my hard drive is sentient

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Look at the jagoff in this thread running victory laps against positions none of us are taking, like

Ignoring that because your gut tells you humans are special, and always beat the machines in the movies just means you will be blindsided when Tesla fights unioning workers with these bots.

@[email protected] is the most exceptionally sycophantic bootlicker I've seen in these parts in a loooooong time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't even think humans are fundamentally special, I think all life is special

surely they can see that being able to y'know, have an actual will is an important quality, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

All I see is "silicon intelligence is nigh, denying the treat printers being intelligent means you're superstitious and believe that artifical intelligence is impossible AND you believe humans can defeat machines with the power of friendship, which of course makes you a stupid meat computer barbarian unlike my logical rational self" takes from that utter and total jagoff

In short, I think that euphoric Redditor thinks no life is special, you know, like some Warhammer 40k LARPer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

squashing the will with subservience to capital is, after all, the point

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody does, we might not even be. But it's pretty easy to guess inorganic material on earth isn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personally I believe it's possible that different types of sentiences could exist

however, if chatGPT has this divergent type of sentience, then so does every other computer program ever written, and they'd be like the computer-life-version of bacteria while chatGPT would be a mammal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It could potentially, but we certainly ain't seen it yet and this ain't it for sure.