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Americans are increasingly unlikely to believe that those who work hard will get ahead and that their children will be better off than they are, according to two recent polls.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not dying because it is already dead

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It was never alive in the first place, it's just a mean of giving some glimmer of false hope while the oligarchs continue being parasites.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree, back in the 60s it was totally possible to find a decent paying job, have a couple of kids, buy a house to store them in, get a new car every few years, send your kids off to school, go on vacations and retire at an age old enough to enjoy some time with the grandkids. Now that really isn’t a reality for the average person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

When my dad bought a house in LA during the 70s, his car cost more than the house.

However, the car died after 2 years which apparently was normal. He then drove a 1977 Ford Ranger up north and that thing would barely start, ever.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was, briefly, in postwar America.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you were of the fair-skinned persuasion, maybe...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

You’re right, but important to remember that 90% of America was white in 1960.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You don't think any American generation did better than the previous one through work?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Some generations did better than previous ones due to economic conditions at the time, and this is especially true in the period between WWII and Reaganomics. Some individuals experience both hard work and success, but there are a great many hard working individuals who have no personal wealth to speak of.

As for working hard, (unless I miss your point) - it's hardly new for older generations to accuse younger ones of not wanting to work.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why qualify this with "through work?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because that’s part of “the American dream”?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

American Dream, ideal that the United States is a land of opportunity that allows the possibility of upward mobility, freedom, and equality for people of all classes who work hard and have the will to succeed.

How would one “work hard” without working?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Naw after WWII when half the men were dead, everyone had jobs, houses, and two women fawning over them. It was great, if only we had a way to kill off half the people so everyone could have twice as much.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh I thought they meant to die was the dream.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who can afford to die in this economy?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You load 16 tons, what do ya get?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A written warning. Funking slackers loading less than 20.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I tie my piss bottle to my belt loop with a shoelace. My supervisor told me I have potential. Now I just need another shoelace.