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A Tesla owner says he was locked out of his EV after its 12-volt battery died amid the Texas heat
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2023
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It's news because it’s anti-EV propaganda funded by the gas industry. Articles like this exist solely to get car buyers on the fence to not buy an EV.
No, just buy a Nissan Leaf...
Not all electric vehicles are Tesla...
Nissan Leaf batteries are air cooled instead of water cooled. I wouldn't buy one, especially in a hot area.
Water cooled things are air cooled. The difference is in noise and where it's located.
Do you mean that water cooled has a radiator, which is then air cooled? Not the same thing.
As someone in the UK. What is this hot weather you talk of?
We're only in June, just wait till August lol we'll all be dying in our oven homes
Oh gosh. Not again. Those 40 degrees days were brutal. We're not set up for hot temperatures :).
I was confused, then I remembered Celsius. 40c is 104f. I'll be seeing a few of those days in the next week or so
We don't have air conditioning here except in offices and cars...
or a Hyundai if you don't want to pay a subscription to unlock your doors
Would recommend this over the Leaf, but if I recall correctly, Hyundai's latest EV's may not have a manual outdoor door release. You won't get this in US markets, but in Europe and Australasia, I do know the MG is cheaper than both Nissan and Hyundai, and do have manual releases on all their doors.
I agree, but it doesn’t matter. The average shopper associates teslas with all EVs. They see this article and think “no chance I’m getting locked out of my gas car! Ill never buy and EV!”, not “no chance I’m getting locked out of my EV! I’ll buy a Leaf instead of a Tesla!”
Which is the exact goal of this article.
Average American consumer. In the UK, Prius was massive hybrid wise. Tesla is at premium end now, but Nissan always had a presence.
Hopefully they think "fuck this car shit" and start wanting/trying every other form of transit.
Don't know. Didn't read it. Flattened my battery once in my petrol car and couldn't get in because of immobiliser.
I love EVs but hate the scope creep and electric vehicles being associated with data mining and lock out. Of course some other non EVs are going that route also.
and the leaf can be susceptible to this as well. its a 12v battery thing not a ev or ice thing.
The Leaf is pretty much the worst option you can get. There are plenty of others, cheaper, and better, that actually have thermal management on the pack. Unless you're buying used, in which case the Leaf can be fairly good value, if all you're doing is city driving.
This right here. I fully plan for my next vehicle to be completely EV but refuse to give tesla any money at all. Currently it's not in my realistic price range but Rivian has some pretty sweet choices
Oh, you're thinking a Ute or SUV?
While I agree with this thing being a propaganda piece, Tesla is often making this laughably easy, with their total disregard for basic security, safety and redundancy. Some manufacturer needs to step up as “the face of EVs”, because Tesla is giving everyone in the industry a bad rep.
Does your ICE powered vehicle have redundant 12V batteries? (Even 4x4s with dual batteries very rarely have both connected to the cars electronics…)
I‘m not here to shit on EVs. Tesla just makes some really bad calls. My ICE has a key hidden inside the fob I can use to unlock my car. This isn’t something EVs couldn’t do, just something Tesla doesn’t think about doing because they want to have all the margin and anything redundant means slightly higher BOM.
No OP, but I can still open my door when my battery dies.
100% this. I wonder how many non-EV cars broke down in the heat but didn’t make the news…
Well, Elno is certainly doing his own anti-advertising campaign well. I'd never buy a Tesla because that dumbffffk who gives nazis a microphone will profit of it, but there are a lot of very good alternatives out there now.
People buying EVs get them from vegetable stands, not the “auto industry”