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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean yes there is the command to cover yourself in the quran, [24:31] for example ("... And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their chastity, and not to reveal their adornments except what normally appears. Let them draw their veils over their chests, and not reveal their ˹hidden˺ adornment...").
Still, the idea of women generally being forced to wear it by their family/social circle is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is over 14300 years debate material about if this specific order to a time where women were targeted because who the were, or a general islamic rule.

Regardless it is never, telling man what and what not to wear, but always telling women what and what not to wear.

If the really care about Muslims women being forced to wear it, the law should be:

  • if you force female to wear or not wear anything then you go to prison. Then that would aolve the problem and gave people the freedom to wear or not wear religious symbols.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah where did this debate take place with ehich people? AFAIK all 4 sunni schools are unanimous in their intepretation, that people have to cover their bodies.
It is also very much telling men what and what not to wear. The specific body parts that have to be covered differ from school to school, for women and for men, but every muslim scholar says that every human has to cover certain parts of their body from the gaze of other people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Well this is factually not true as Islamic law prescribes men dress modestly but at least cover themselves from at **least their belly buttons to their knees. ** If the shorts get too short men do get called out for it.

Furthermore you are insinuating that a woman cannot, of her own free will, choose to wear a headscarf. So you the big important male must decide it for her. Which is not very feminist of you.