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What would have happened if they were more successful in occupying the building? I think they could hold out for a day or two if Trump publicly supported them and withheld any forces from violently removing them from the building. Then there would be a shit show on the news as the congress in exile would be fighting over whether to impeach in order to fix it. Papa John’s would prolong the occupation by feeding the occupiers. All the news stations would have 24/7 Situation Room style live reporting. The protestors would slowly get bored of it and leave in a trickle until only the diehards are left. At that point Trump realizes it makes them look stupid, so he quietly allows the special forces to remove them, but without any harm. There would be footage of them heroically exiting the building. They would be in Fox News and Fucker Carlson interviews for the rest of their lives and retire comfortably.
But on the whole, nothing would actually change
I think s letting them in was really the best case scenario for them. Even then, all they could do was some pointless shit like putting their feet on Pelosi's desk.
January 6th revealed a terminal naïveté of US civil society that we can ordinarily only speculate about. The absolute child's understanding required to believe power works like a game of Duck Duck Goose. You have the CHUDs, ultrapatriotic nerds with constitution wallpapers in their living rooms marching into the Capitol to wrestle power back from the 'deep state cabal' only to discover it is just a fucking building. Then you have their mirror image in the Liberals. Multitudes who agree with the premise that they're playing a game of Duck Duck Goose and that they almost lost. A deep rooted naïveté, not just among Internet cranks, but among high echelons of the punditry.
It’s true and kinda gives me hope during an eventual conflict scenario with chuds. Like think about the GWOT, Jan 6, hell even these new wars. American high command DO NOT HAVE A PLAN. They just don’t, they enter conflicts with the absolute bare minimum of information and intelligence and then try to take institutions of power. I really think that mentality has trickled down into the general population and they think that’s how wars are won. But the thing is America hasn’t won a war since WW2.
And, it goes without saying, but to say "America won WW2" is pretty charitable. Like, it's basically a participation award.
Pretty much. But that being said you can still see a level of operational coherency that you just don’t see in the post WW2 era for the US. Like in general you could believe that the average GI involved in WW2 understood what they were doing and what their objective was. But that just doesn’t exist in wars like Vietnam or the GWOT. Like you can watch interviews with people involved in those conflicts and they could not discern why they were being told to hold this hill or that village past the point of they were ordered to do so. It’s been a running theme I’ve noticed and I think that mentality has made its way through to how the average chud thinks about war and how to “win”. That’s why I think the Jan 6th people acted the way they did pretty much.
I mean, they beat the Japanese in the Pacific. Not an easy feat
The social organism has no idea it's a social organism.
I forgot about that
I imagine they would have got bored and left eventually.
Republican Senate decides President if pence left the building.
You know, standard sandbox rules every American can understand.