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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You'd be surprised. Medieval and early Renaissance Europe were far from culturally sensitive*, but they regarded people in Asia and Africa as fundamentally similar to themselves. Racism evolved out of the discovery of the New World - at first, as a means of justifying the murder and enslavement of American peoples, and then, after the Pope said that colonizers had to pretend to care about Christianized native lives, as an excuse to seek exploitable labor elsewhere (Africa). Even in the 17th century the divides were far from firm - only going into the 18th did social divisions harden, and not until the end of the 18th century did 'scientific' racism truly emerge.

*my personal favorite is in a 12th or 13th century chivalric romance, a character is mixed-race - the European author apparently had no idea what someone who's mixed race would look like, and so described them as literally half-white and half-black, split down the middle

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thats actually really cute. Is that romance available to read somewhere?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A marvel his skin to look on, and like unto none his face,
For 'tis black, and 'tis white, as his parents, who sprang of a diverse race.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/47297/47297-h/47297-h.htm

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/47298/47298-h/47298-h.htm

A translation from German, and an older translation at that, so keep that in mind, but it's actually a pretty fun, if very, uh, Medieval European, story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

America cared what the pope said? Weren't (and aren't) most Americans Protestant, very few Catholics?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Most US Americans are protestants, because we have religious cultural roots with later British and Dutch settlers. But the first colonizers of North America and South America were the Spanish and Portuguese, who are very Catholic, and they dominated colonization efforts for some 200 years.