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they got pissed off at Jewish Zionism for being fakes

Amazing

I always love to tell people that Smith was known for raiding local indigenous graveyards in upper New York and when he was not doing that he was scammimg people with water dousing services.

I tell people if they are in Utah to visit the Gilgal Sculpture Garden. They have a Sphinx with a head in the shape of Smith.

While many laypeople believe these gold tablets to be forgeries created by the church, this simply isn't the case. The truth is far worse. The gold tablets are from an indigenous kingdom that had long since disappeared

The way I always heard it is that the plates never existed, not that they were taken from an indigenous kingdom. In fact, it's the Mormons themselves who insist that the plates were created by an man from an indigenous American tribe called the Nephites who were originally from Israel. The full title of the book of Mormon is "The Book of Mormon: An Account Written by the Hand of Mormon upon Plates Taken from the Plates of Nephi," Mormon being the name of the indigenous man who supposedly created the plates.

Smith said that he found the plates on September 22, 1823, on a hill near his home in Manchester, New York, after the angel Moroni directed him to a buried stone box. He said that the angel prevented him from taking the plates but instructed him to return to the same location in a year. He returned to that site every year, but it was not until September 1827 that he recovered the plates on his fourth annual attempt to retrieve them. He returned home with a heavy object wrapped in a frock, which he then put in a box. He allowed others to heft the box but said that the angel had forbidden him to show the plates to anyone until they had been translated from their original "reformed Egyptian" language.

Smith dictated the text of the plates while a scribe wrote down the words which would later become the Book of Mormon. Eyewitnesses to the process said Smith translated the plates, not by looking directly at them, but by looking through a transparent seer stone in the bottom of his hat.

Smith eventually obtained testimonies from 11 men who said that they had seen the plates, known as the Book of Mormon witnesses. After the translation was complete, Smith said that he returned the plates to the angel Moroni; thus, they could never be examined.

It seems to me that he simply filled a random box with heavy objects, wouldn't let anyone look at what was inside, "translated" the plates by looking at a "seer stone" in his hat, and then "gave the plates (which probably never existed) back to the angel Moroni." He curated "witnesses" (loyal Mormons) who would vouch for him.

There doesn't seem to be any evidence that Smith actually found any kind of indigenous artifacts. The evidence points towards him simply insisting that he got plates from an "angel" and then "gave them back" when he was done "translating" them, i.e., dictating his ideas to a loyal fellow Mormon.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that indigenous North Americans could have possibly produced such an object, however:

To date "no one has found evidence that points to the use of melting, smelting and casting in prehistoric eastern North America."

and

Archaeological evidence has not revealed metal smelting or alloying of metals by pre-Columbian native peoples north of the Rio Grande; however, they did use native copper extensively.

Most artifacts of gold come from Central/South America. Could you provide a source for your claims that the tablets were real in the first place? If anything, the Mormon telling of the story doesn't really conflict with your idea anyway, since the Mormon interpretation is that indigenous Americans are a lost tribe Israelites. Joseph Smith never argued that the plates were made by non-indigenous people, but rather that indigenous people are Israelites. That of course comes with its own separate baggage, but he never claimed that his (likely non existent) golden plates were non-indigenous in origin. The book of Mormon claims that the tablets were created by an indigenous American man named Mormon who was a member of a tribe called the Nephites. Joseph Smith of course made all that shit up.

The gold tablets are from an indigenous kingdom that had long since disappeared

i've never heard this before, i thought no such objects ever existed, no forgery no misinterpreted artifact

jack mormon gang

The fucking letter G is an among us that is pronounced "gay".

That letter is like a Rorschach Test. I'm clearly seeing a butt with a Hitler haircut.