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Turns out tankies don't care about Muslims when there are boots that need licking
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this post was submitted on 13 Jan 2024
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Yeah, the Marxists Leninist are the problem, not the conservative MAGA ghouls that want to enslave women and children… smh 🤦♀️
Problem is the so-called tankies don’t even distinguish between MAGA people in the US and US liberals or Democrats - to them, they’re both “Liberals” as in neoliberals, and for some reason they rarely criticize US conservatives while spending plenty of time criticizing US Democrats. Doesn’t make much sense from their supposed point of view.
TokenBoomer is a tankie bootlicker. Ignore them. Their only interest is in sobbing "Why won't the socdems work with us???" while simultaneously saying that socdems and fascists are the exact same thing.
"Left unity" to tankies means "Lick out boots until we put a bullet in your head". Obey the party line!
I'd be amazed if this person actually lived in the US.
I, unfortunately, do. So, enjoy the amazement.
I'll believe it when I bump into you at the grocery store and apologize for not being communist enough.
So, you admit you don’t believe in communism. How did I know?
I didn't say that though. I said not communist enough as I doubt that I'd pass the ideological purity test of thinking that anything short of perfection may as well be MAGA.
I stand corrected. You do want to replace capitalism with socialism. You passed the test.
Thanks. I'm glad we're getting along.
You don’t agree that fascism is capitalism in decay? Why shouldn’t I want to work with groups that want to prevent another Trump presidency?
The issue isn't with wanting to work together - that's the key point you're missing. It's the way left-leaning Americans are lumped in with complete fascists, like it's either 100% good or "You're a LIBERAL just like Republicans!" (meaning neoliberal, which is also confusing af in American political terms).
I’m glad you understand. Education is liberation.
If you’re anti-capitalist, Republicans and Democrats are the same. And they criticize both, but…
Martin Luther King, Jr.
I realize their perspective is purely economic issues. However, it completely overlooks the vast difference on social issues and the fact that MAGA wants to institute a more harsh form of capitalism, plus theocratic dictatorship. Seems like a worthy distinction to me. Plus, that doesn’t explain why they’re so hot to criticize people like Biden and Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton but don’t say jack shit about the various Trump supporting clowns prominent in US politics.
Yes, thanks for the MLK quote but not sure why you thought I needed to read that again right now.
I don’t need you to read it, I need you to understand it. MLK was writing about people like Biden, Hillary and Warren, who are more concerned with rules and order than justice. Trump and MAGA are the KKK. We know what they are.
Yeah, the socially liberal lite socialists are the problem, not the conservative MAGA ghouls that want to enslave women and children… smh 🤦♀️
The problem is liberals attacking tankies, who they need to work with to counter the fascism of Trump and conservatives. I want liberals and leftists to work together, but some are so hellbent on purity tests that they fail to see the big picture. Anarchists and Marxists Leninists should know that to ultimately defeat fascism, you have to dismantle capitalism.
I'm not allying with people defending Russia's persecution of the LGBT and Russian imperialism. I don't want to replace an imperialism with another imperialism with an exotic taste.
Didn’t realize the tankies were about to invade America. TIL
You're gaslighting. Nobody said or implied that.
Your new tactic is pretty lame. Not sure what you nazbols are trying to accomplish by being dumb on purpose.
Tankies, nazbols. What’s next, PatSocs? Or are we going 19th Century? Can I be a Rapscallion?
Sure, whatever you'd like!
MLs are fine. Tankies are the MAGA cultists painted red. Fuck nazbols.
Tankies appear to be whatever you want them to be.
Don't want to be called a tankie? Stop simping for autocracies/ultranationalist hellholes. It's that simple.
I don’t care if you call me a tankie, nazbol, or whatever. Just don’t call me Liberal… lol
Is nazi OK?
Sure, if I can call you a trad-cap.
I'm surprised a so-called leftist would allow anyone to call them a nazi. Kinda making a point here, thank you.
I don’t care what you think of me. I know who I am. Those are just words. It’s the actions that matter. Identity politics is just an expression of class struggle. Labeling people is a form of prejudice. I try not classify groups and discriminate based on political beliefs. Sometimes, people are misinformed and mislead. I’m willing to learn about different ideologies to form my own opinion. The Marxist Leninists I’ve talked to have been friendly and informed.
Defending regimes that commit war crimes and genocide is a hard red line anyone with a hint of morality will refuse to cross, let alone a leftist. I don't accept these things coming from the West, and I certainly won't accept it from anybody else.
You can be a ML all you like. Just don't be one of the buffoons that support litteral genocide.
I'm fighting red-browns, not reds. And boy is there plenty of them on Lemmy, although, thankfully, their sphere of influence shrinks daily with the bans and defederations.
Edit: Being a nazi is not just a word, no. It doesn't live in the "OK things to be" space.
So, you voting for Biden? I never said I was a Nazi. You did. I said I don’t care what you call me. There is a difference.
I'm not an American. I don't vote in the US.
You literally said you prefer being called a nazi than a liberal. I did not invent this. This says a lot about your twisted sense of priorities.
Would you vote for Joe Biden if you were American? I said you can call me whatever you want since you’re hyper focused on labels. Call me Satan’s stillbirth. It doesn’t change the fact that calling people slurs on social media serves fascism.
Being a genocide-denying tankie serves fascism too, in a more litteral way. On top of, you know, scaring away people that might be interested in leftism?
You’re yelling at a cloud. I ardently defend Palestinians against their genocide on Lemmy. I don’t like labels, but would be what you call an anarchist. An Internationalist with Council Communist leanings. And I’m here to educate those who think they can have socialism without abolishing capitalism. Marxist Leninists get that, so they are allies. You can’t defend capitalism and be a socialist. It’s that simple.
I never defended capitalism. I'm actually opposed to it too. And fuck Israel's persecution of Palestinians.
You can say those things and still denounce tankism, like the root comment was doing. This should not be contentious.
Tankies are not the allies of any denomination of anarchists. More like traditional enemies. Defend sane marxist leninists if you'd like, but don't jump to the defence of tankies, if you don't want to be assimilated to them.
Marxist Leninists hold no offices and have no power in America. Their organization is limited. Hating on them is performative and masturbatory. It strokes the ego. But it also serves fascism by minimizing the coalition needed to fight it. You can hate tankies with the fire of a thousand suns, but they are against the very people we hope to defeat. I’m no fan of authoritarian leftists, but that battle should be saved for the fifth international after we defeat fascism.
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. I refuse to consider tankies to be allies, especially considering their insignificancy: they're pretty low-value allies all around. I remember what they did to leftists last time they had the chance...
I wasn’t alive in 1922. Hopefully it won’t play out the same. We have the benefit of hindsight to avoid those mistakes. Leftist infighting serves capitalism. I choose not to participate. I prefer to reserve my anger for capitalism.
You are participating. If you hadn't felt the need to reply to the root comment, we wouldn't be here now.
I denounce it. You can’t deal with a problem until you address it. I have participated by posting heavy handed criticism of liberalism. This post and this discussion is helping me to reconsider that method.