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Link - https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1747323130060697682

They already Community Noted her - Clare Daly is a highly controversial Irish politician who was accused of nepotism, support for dictators like Putin and Assad, causing divide in European parliamentary left, and arguably doesn't represent not just dead Irish ancestors but also majority of living Irish.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What makes a country Western? I would've thought the fact that they're so geographically close to other countries that are no doubt Western countries, and have a similar history as a former Spanish colony, have a majority Christian population, etc would count to make them a Western country. Obviously they have a very different mode of social organization to every other Western country, but if we're trying to find the best Western country and we exclude all the good ones what's the point?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Westernism has less to do with geography and more to do with ideology and fanatical adherence to white supremacist-coded capitalism

Otherwise, the phrase "Australia is a western country" wouldn't seem so normal despite its geographical ludicrousness

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes I think if you define it more based on Western bloc vs Eastern bloc lines I'm more inclined to agree. But to me "Western" is more of a cultural label than a political one, so it seemed weird.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even if you defined it culturally, the "west" would still end at the US/Mexican border, the Polish border, Gibraltar, and the Nauru/Manus Islands

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don't think Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands are Western? Or Panama?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Western enclaves sure, but western inherently? Absolutely not

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To add to that, Spain also has enclaves in north africa, so clearly you are including PR given you said it ends at Gibraltar, heck like half of Italy and Malta are south of Gibraltar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I mean, they said the US Mexico border, I think if Mexico isn't included then it's fair enough to say the Caribbean isn't either. Honestly, after giving it more thought, I think they're right. My definition is pretty much ad hoc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A culture of white supremacy and Liberal Fascist colonialism

The West TM, the inheritor of "the roman empire" is fascist and always has been. There's a reason why USA, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Britain were all obsessed with the Roman Empire and emulated it constantly and believed it to be the pinnacle of history. It's because they're all fascists. That's what it means to be "The West"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

no we just had this one, you have to wait longer to have a struggle session on the same topic again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

sicko-hyper it's my turn on the struggle sesh!