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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

While I'm generally against subscriptions, for the most part the above are things that require cellular service and cloud infrastructure...

While the price may be too high. I'm normally ok with subscriptions for things that have on-going costs to the seller.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I would need to see the "read more" here, all of these look fine but I'd never be surprised to see shit like cruise control or heated seats pop up on a paywall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My car has remote lock and unlock on a FOB, no reason for an app and subscription.
I also get the feeling that the diagnostics are done on board by the car, it's just refusing to give you the information unless you're paying the sub.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I work on crap like this, and it depends. Yeah, diagnostics are done in the car - the main ones, that is. But for example BMW collects data from all their cars - they're able to do some big data analysis. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the diagnostic info this app provided is an inference - your car has software version 4.3.21, and all cars on that sw version have experienced a certain bug at 200k km, so it's time to go to the dealership or get a remote update or something. It could be done.

Most likely though, they're just taking the personal data from your car and showing it to you. You know - after also saving it for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Put a knockoff air tag in your car and half of this is solved for $10.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Literally one item on that list could be solved with a airtag. And airtags start at 30, even the knockoffs are 20 and don't really work well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We should be able to self host the servers and choose the cellular service like i can on my phone then