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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

How many of your fellow citizens would you sacrifice to Putin if he decided to invade your county? That is what you are saying. Give over regions of Ukraine to an aggressive fascist state. Fuck that. I’d fight against that even if it was hopeless. Ukraine needs to be armed to win. The US could do this, if we wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your assuming that he isn't Russian. Russia seems totally willing to sacrifice as many lives to Putin as Putin wants.

What's really pathetic about these call for Ukraine to give up is that Russia still wouldn't win. For a so-called superpower, the clash of armies should have been an easy win. The actual hard part is the occupation. Zelinski could sign the whole country over to Putin today, and it would just guarantee that the bloodshed continues for years or decades. Even in areas that leaned towards Russia, Ukrainians are of no mind to simply surrender.