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Boys and men from generation Z are more likely than older baby boomers to believe that feminism has done more harm than good, according to research that shows a “real risk of fractious division among this coming generation”.

On feminism, 16% of gen Z males felt it had done more harm than good. Among over-60s the figure was 13%.

The figures emerged from Ipsos polling for King’s College London’s Policy Institute and the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership. The research also found that 37% of men aged 16 to 29 consider “toxic masculinity” an unhelpful phrase, roughly double the number of young women who don’t like it.

“This is a new and unusual generational pattern,” said Prof Bobby Duffy, director of the Policy Institute. “Normally, it tends to be the case that younger generations are consistently more comfortable with emerging social norms, as they grew up with these as a natural part of their lives.”

Link to study: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/masculinity-and-womens-equality-study-finds-emerging-gender-divide-in-young-peoples-attitudes

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I find the internet is super good at locking people into echo chambers. For some reason, I feel especially keen on this when I was super into reddit over the last decade. I could FEEL just how a community would shift into just saying the same 10 things on repeat and any deviation would result in downvotes and messages in my inbox.

But it's not just reddit. Modern video feed algorithms and other social media just need to feed you the same stuff you've engaged with previously.

So what ends up happening is young boys only see the videos of angry purple haired stereotype liberal feminist first year college student get SLAMMED/DESTROYED by Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson or a woman who is clearly saying something sarcastic with sad sigma male music in the background and all the comments are calling for her to be put in prison or death.

And that's not to say people don't experience these types IRL and it morphs their opinions, my sister is this stereotype and is pretty fucking stupid and she will get into heated debates on Facebook about stuff she has no idea about. She'll read a headline and form a whole mindset of bullshit around it and never verify if it was just a click bait article posted to Facebook to get ad revenue with no concept of journalist integrity. It's really difficult talking to her about anything political because even though I'm pretty liberal/progressive myself, she'll just say things that are factually wrong and when I try to talk to her about it she takes it as me disagreeing and won't listen to reason or logic outside of her preconceived image of reality. Very difficult person

I often have to look at her and remind myself that people like her are a very small portion of the population and aren't really indicative of the masses.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

I swear rage baiting in the social media era has to be the most lucrative grift of all time. Even being super aware of it I still fall for it from time to time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Modern video feed algorithms and other social media just need to feed you the same stuff you’ve engaged with previously.

People should really stop saying this. Every YouTube ad I get and recommendation I get is crap now. It is like someone ordered the developers to break echo chambers by making sure people don't get what they want. I am not a fucking kid, I know what I want to watch, and what I don't want to watch. Tired of the anti trans bullshit I am constantly being suggested.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

i think your experience is likely anecdotal and non-representative of general trends.

scholars still indicate that algorithms play a significant role in gathering echo chambers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not anti-echohamber. That's the algorithm reinforcing the anti-trans propaganda that drives clicks and views on most platforms. Controversy is sensational, and anger provokes responses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I don't know, wasn't happening about a year ago right around the same time that everyone decided that watching the video you want to watch was a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I find the internet is super good at locking people into echo chambers.

People do this to themselves because they find comfort in the familiar, like in real life. I am not sure echo chambers are a unique to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Prior to the internet, it was people's churches, workplaces, the local pub, etc. Now it's randos with an agenda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, to an extent. But the algorithms of all the major social media sites kick this into overdrive. Seriously, how many times have you clicked on a random YouTube video about some obscure topic and then for the next week it seems like every other recommended video is about that same topic? Even if you just watched a little bit of the original video and then clicked away because it wasn't interesting. I see the same thing with the Google Feed on my Android phone - I click on one random article and then it just assumes that one topic is my new primary interest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The internet can definitely get very echo chamber/brigade/gatekeepy when it feels like it. Sadly, lots of people have no identity of their own and attempt to latch on to one created for them. Once this happens, then they fiercely and angrily defend what the adopted, as if it were them being attacked personally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Probably not the comment you were expecting, but, what's "sad sigma male music"? And why is it called that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are a few sound clips that got used a lot when the whole dumbass sigma male thing was popular

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm so out of touch. Need to google what 'sigma male things is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

First you should learn about ligma