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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let’s use knives instead. If you’re bothering me on the street, and I flash a large knife at you in response, what would be your interpretation of that gesture? Am I just getting my knife some air? Am I inviting you back to mine for a night cap? Or am I telling you to back off because I have a weapon?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not a particularly relevant example. If you and I were having a discussion about one's right to self-defense, and I ask you "like by carrying a knife", and you say "yes, in fact I'm carrying a knife right now" and you show me, I'm not going to feel threatened. (Which is actually exactly what happened in this instance.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What does showing the knife accomplish in this example?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I assume to emphasize the point about having a weapon to defend oneself. You don't have to agree with that point, but you don't get to automatically jump to it being some kind of threat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I mean, I kinda get where you’re coming from. Though I’ll say I could take that to an extreme to show how flawed it is.

I will say however, when someone is actively saying “we want knife control, things are unsafe if everyone is just walking around with knives” and someone else goes “what are you talking about I have this knife right here” it does have a bit more sinister a vibe in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't drag us knife owners into it. Mine is a tool for cutting things, a gun has no useful purpose (outside a range). A tool can be misused but a gun's primary purpose is to make living things dead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've lived a sheltered and privileged life if you think there is no useful purpose in a tool which has the primary purpose of making living things dead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe so but I doubt I am alone. How often do you find yourself needing a penis-enhancer to survive? What do you got a story about something that may or may not have happened from ten years ago?

We write laws for the society we are in not for the society that could exist. So yeah you are free to view me as domesticated or whatever foul word for weakness you have ready to go, but to me you are same except one of us is aware of what life is actually like.

Have you thought about video games or joining the Guard? Good way to get solider boy out of your system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So yeah you are free to view me as domesticated or whatever foul word for weakness you have ready to go, but to me you are same except one of us is aware of what life is actually like.

Oh yes, I have a very descriptive epithet for you: Future victim

I don't have the privilege of living somewhere with a sub-minute police response, and even if I did, the police have no obligation to protect me. When seconds count, a bullet is faster than dialing 911.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Future victim

Which one of us allows themselves to be in a position where we need a gun? Rather than planning to rise to an occasion, simply stop the occasion from occuring. I get vaccinated so I don't have to depend on my immune system pulling off a win.

don’t have the privilege of living somewhere

Think I found your problem. I grew up in a village of 400 people btw. At one point my school was slightly over 10% me+siblings+cousins. If I can manage to overcome that I am betting you can as well. My wife had it a lot harder, I have been multiple times to her developing world farming village.

When seconds count, a bullet is faster than dialing 911.

Who made the guns so widely available that seconds do count?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not even worth responding to your non-arguments. Even your vaccine analogy is garbage because vaccines are like arming your immune system to defend against viruses.

And GTFO with your bootstrapper rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Do you have a pickup?