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Some young American workers are moving to Europe in hopes of a healthier and happier life.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bad take. There aren't droves of people leaving the U.S.

High skilled immigration to the U.S is still big. Hell, its a problem for European tech companies, as their best engineers get poached by the U.S.

Might be a surprising take for some, but Europeans still move to the U.S today. Not in the droves of the 20th century, but still an amount. 12% of all immigrants to the U.S are from Europe in 2021.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not immigration, those Europeans generally don't move to the US to stay. The US are a place to make lots of money while your're young, who the hell would want to fund a family or grow old there: The wages might be high, but to get an equivalent level of social security and general quality of life none of it would be left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can confirm. Made the painful decision to move back to Europe because we wouldn't have been able to afford the kid's studies, growing old and sick with no retirement and so on

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I think it depends. I’m a software dev in the U.S. I have talked to many developers in Europe who feel like they are stuck, and are making a pittance compared to what they make in the U.S. If you were to talk to one of these people, they would be providing a different perspective than what you are telling me right now. And it turns out, moving is hard no matter where you are from.

Personally, I’ve crunched the numbers. Even with social benefits, moving to Europe for me would be a mistake.

Btw, I know multiple European families in the U.S. They aren’t all just here temporarily. Not everyone just keeps moving on a whim.

I’m one of the immigrant families lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think it depends. I'm a software dev in the U.S. I have talked to many developers in Europe who feel like they are stuck, and are making a pittance compared to what they make in the U.S. If you were to talk to one of these people, they would be providing a different perspective than what you are telling me right now. And it turns out, moving is hard no matter where you are from.

Personally, I've crunched the numbers. Even with social benefits, moving to Europe for me would be a mistake.

Btw, I know multiple European families in the U.S. They aren't all just here temporarily. Not everyone just keeps moving on a whim.

I'm one of the immigrant families lol.