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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

More like a punishment, except it's not even deserved. There is way more suffering in life than pleasure, it is immoral to bring someone into this world, and you have absolutely no responsibility to your parents for doing that, rather the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your mileage may vary. Yeah, there are a lot of bad things in life, but that doesn't mean life as a whole is bad. You don't get to make that call when there are so many people who enjoy life. Not even if you define life's pleasures as merely relief from life's needs and strains.

To be clear, I'm not saying you should be having kids. You're fully within your rights to judge the circumstances of your own life and where your kid would end up to decide if it's right or wrong. Obviously it'd be wrong to have a kid in the freezing arctic with no hope of escape or survival for more than a few years. But you can't say having kids is unequivocally wrong for everyone in every circumstance.

And if you truly believe life is wholly bad, that might be a symptom of depression.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Oh, I think it absolutely is a sign of depression.

Life is hard, but I enjoy the vast majority of my time. Here's my schedule:

  1. Get up to the sun shining most days, enjoy a breakfast with minimal effort, and dress in clothes I didn't have to make
  2. Go to work in a temperature controlled environment with modern conveniences
  3. Get home, watch shows and play games while machines clean my clothes and dishes
  4. Go to sleep after listening to some truly great content on a modern marvel that fits in my pocket

Or I could tell it another way:

  1. Get up late because my phone kept me up at night, and eat crap cereal because that's all I have time for
  2. Work in a soulless env with people I don't like, taking breaks only to piss
  3. Microwave dinner because I'm too exhausted for anything else, and waste time on shows and gacha games because that's all I have the energy for
  4. Doomscroll on my phone because I went to put off doing it all over again as long as possible

Most of life is about perspective. It turns out that you'll find whatever you're looking for, whether that's joy or misery. If you can't find the good, you're probably depressed and should seek help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Which is why it's a good thing suicide is a human right we all deserve and have available to us, should we wish to take it.

I agree we don't owe anyone else anything, which is why is see suicide as a right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is way more suffering in life than pleasure

If you (or anyome out there reading this) truly feel this way, please seek professional psychological assistance. At the very least make attempts to find a better living situation for yourself, if it's your current conditions that are driving this belief.

This is blatantly disordered thinking, a sign of trauma, or a sign that there is something seriously wrong with the immediate conditions you are living in.

I'm not talking about the general doom spiral of the world as conditions, but things directly around you day to day. If you can't live your day to day without awareness of the general doom spiral, see what choices you can make to limit your exposure to it (in short: stop spending so much time online and reading articles about how fucked everything is).

There are always choices available to you to improve the world around you and your position in it, no matter by how small a margin. I've been where you're at, and things don't have to suck forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I don't want to misrepresent what you're saying, so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that there is really is much more suffering in life than pleasure, and that the internet simply makes you aware of that fact, and that to improve your mental health you should try and forget about it and shut your eyes to the horrors of this world - but that they really still exist?