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why do you choose π solution over a commercial ink?
This is just pure chaos. Why would you use printer ink in a fountain pen? I cannot fathom any valid reason besides just wanting to do something batshit insane.
Printer ink is useful because each of the C, M, and Y inks is a perfect filter of exactly one colour. C filters red, M filters green, and Y filters blue. Commercial fountain pen inks almost never have this kind of absorptive specificity. They're usually a mix of two or more dyesβa mix that you don't control. Once a dye is in the mix, you can't just take it out. The best you could do is dim all of the other colours, but then you lose saturation.
Here's a specific example. Suppose you have a commercial ink of 5C:1M and you want pure C. You're stuck with that 1M. The best you can do is add 1Y to make 5C:1M:1Y = 4C:1K. You've got a balanced C, but that extra 1K is going to make everything look a little grey. Ew. And that is assuming you can even get pure Y in the first place. No ink manufacturer in their right mind would try to sell a pure Y on purpose. It is very difficult to read. (Except under a pure blue light. It's super awesome actually. This has been an underhanded privacy-invading tactic of the government for some time now. Yellow microdots are printed on all commercial inkjet printouts.)
These inks have also been designed to be mutually equally absorptive of their respective light wavelengths, so an equal ratio of 1C:1Y makes a perfectly balanced green. These inks has also been designed to stay in solution even when mixed. There are no chemical reactions that could cause precipitate to form, thus totally fucking the pen. Achieving this with commercial fountain pen inks would be difficult, and potentially dangerous.
However.
That's actually not the reason why I started using printer ink. I was in Oulu, I had just run out of fountain pen ink, and all I could find was a print shop. Here is the whole story of my Oulu trip. I did a little research online before actually doing it. Other people have done it before. You just have to make sure to use dye-based ink and not pigment-based ink. I was able to confirm from Timi that it was dye-based. And prepare for the possibility of having accidentally turned your pen into an ink firehose because printer ink bleeds like three motherfuckers. It needs at least three parts water to calm it down.
EDIT: whoops, wrong blog post.
I get the theory of wanting to use CMY inks. I just think it's weird and a lot of extra work for such a narrow goal. There's not really any wrong way to use your pens however you want, provided you're aware of the risks and know that you may be spending more time than it's really worth.
But πcolorsπ¨
Like these?
Bitch, please
I like changing colours a lot.
i need more information :) you can change colours with inks too
Yeah, I was looking for a good CMYK fountain pen ink set. Nobody seems to make such a set. I could get a lot of half-solutions that would kind of work, but nothing beats the colour space coverage of a complement of CMY inks that were specifically designed to cover the whole colour space. They're also about 10 times cheaper than fountain pen ink.
About six drops of ink and water the rest of the way gives you an entire cartridge of ink. This stuff is super concentrated.
I would use printer ink for the K too, but that's too much of a crapshoot. Too often, the K is pigment-based, and that is likely to ruin a fountain pen. And it's easy enough to find a good neutral black fountain pen ink. That is what the Platinum carbon black is for. It's actually even more concentrated. Just one drop of it divided between two refills makes about a 50:50 grey that I can further modify with the printer ink. For less grey I have to go all the way down to one drop every four refills.
are you using distilled water or tap?
Oh fuck, should I use distilled water? lol hm... Well, I've used tap water and so far, so good... You think I need to use distilled water, @[email protected] ?
There's minerals and other things in tap water. These things will cause issues and damage.
Though, the Lamy Safari is a cheap enough pen to not worry about buying a new one after causing damage.
However, there are other considerations for not using printer ink. Printer ink is designed to be used on specific paper, while fountain pen ink is designed to be more versatile.
The colors for fountain pen ink are also more than the base color. There's the shading which can be a different color from the base The sheen, which can make the ink shine a different color in different lighting. It's designed to flow properly through the feed with an appropriate level of viscosity. There are a lot of factors and testing that goes into fountain pen ink. You can read more about it here: https://www.jetpens.com/blog/The-Beginner-s-Guide-to-Fountain-Pen-Inks/pt/968
Hm. Thanks for the link. This could help me with my ink mixes. Oh, one thing that annoys me: I wish I had pure CMY dyes without surfactant in them, so that I could change the surfactant level and not make the ink so god damned bloody. But I have no fucking clue where I could find CMY dyes without the surfactant.
not a "should", but it would help the nib, i assume, considering the state of the kettles and washing machines &c
it depends on where you live and the quality of the tap water π€·