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can't afford to get my old man back fixed, but rich people dogs gonna live forever
In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough.
Where are you living? What kind of income?
And you think dog vaccines are bad because you have other problems? You should be embarrassed for letting your hurt turn into intentionally wishing more pain and death on others.
I'm sure your father would love to see your love for him turn into pointless hatred for dogs.
Backs are notoriously hard to fix. And low coverage often will not cover anything more than physical therapy and an opium addiction.
There are states where you can’t get medical coverage from the state unless you’re a child or disabled. Every state didn’t expand Medicaid eligibility and every state runs its healthcare system differently.
If you’re going to veer into such an intentionally bad faith reading of someone else’s comment you should at least be right about what you’re saying.
What states are you talking about? What bad faith discussion?
Projection. Yall just want to shit on a system ypu don't understand. Definitively a bad faith dispute.
What kind of people defend shitting on cancer vaccinations of any type?
It’s easy to search it yourself, but there are 10 states that haven’t expanded Medicaid. People in these states who are “just” poor (not disabled or children) do not have access to low/no cost healthcare as you suggested.
Reading someone saying they wish they could get their back fixed and complaining about rich people’s pets having a better standard of healthcare than people, then jumping straight to “they hate dogs and want them to die of cancer” is bad faith. Their feelings about dogs are clearly not the subject of their comment. It’s a complaint about the system that has left them without adequate access to healthcare.
It's obviously not that easy, seeing as how you have created a strawman and are arguing false information.
The claim wasn't about the expansion of medicaid, it was that free coverage exists in all states.
Texas is one of your 10 listed states but has a "Charity Care" law for all non profit hospitals requiring they provide free aid to those that qualify.
https://www2.texasattorneygeneral.gov/faq/access-to-health-care-qa
People who pretend a topic is simple to dismiss the claims of others are typically wrong.
By National law, you are required to be provided any kind of emergency care needed, https://www.patientadvocate.org/explore-our-resources/preventing-medical-debt/uninsured-and-facing-an-emergency-know-your-rights/.
Seems like you are full of shit and want to strawman the topic to be about medicaid expansion.
The hate dogs portion is to address their actual comment which shits on a vaccine for dogs because of coverage not offered by their government. You're just another shitty person looking to justify hating on modern medicine because you're bitter.
It's bad faith to pretend a direct address to his shitty comment is bad faith because it upsets you. I was holding my dog who is currently dying of cancer, while typing that portion, so I would love for you to have said this shit to my face. Fuck his and your shitty attitude on medicine for dogs. Would be pure poetry for the two of yall to taste cancer treatments to know what yall are wishing on people.
Seeing as how you can't piece together a thought that isn't 100% pieced together by bullshit, I'm going to move on from this convo. Have a good one.
Can you tell me who gives broke people free coverage for chemo? How about physical therapy after a serious injury? Mental health care?
Medicaid has different income limits for different states. For a family of 3 in Michigan it's about 2755 per month. If you make less (per household) you qualify for Medicaid. Search "Medicaid Requirements" plus your state. Everything is covered. The 2400ish we bring home a month barely covers our bills, but it's worth it for Medicaid if you have a chronic health condition (or on our case my spouse, our child, and myself all have serious health conditions). My medication for my pituitary deficiency would cost me thousands a month. My spouse and child have a genetic vascular condition and they need scans every year to make sure they're not about to die.
Another thing you can do is a Medicaid spend down. I'm not sure how it is for every other state. But let's say your limit is 3000 for your family but your income is 4000 and your medical bills are 2000 a month. You pay the difference between your income and the limit (1000), and Medicaid covers the rest. I believe you have to have a serious health issue to qualify for a Medicaid spend down.
If you are low enough income to qualify for SSI, Medicaid is given automatically (I think in every state).
In our state of Michigan you apply for Medicaid at DHHS. They have a very easy to use website for a few years now (it was a big hassle before that). Let me know if you have more questions about this.
Hey, thanks for the detailed breakdown.
https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/for-medicaid-insured-patients-with-cancer-health-insurance-does-not-always-mean-health-access/
Cherrypicking.
The point is we are way better off than most nations on healthcare. You could be stuck in Russia where your medical options are get drafted to the front line and killed in your sleep by fellow soldiers over who gets the last soup.
Sorry... how am I cherrypicking by proving my point that being poor doesn't necessarily get you chemo?
How does it prove your point that, "In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough?" Because it seems like it shows the exact opposite.
You didn't prove that chemo isn't provided coverage, you provided select times where coverage doesn't sustain long term.
The claim was never all medical bills is covered in the USA.
And that has nothing to do with what the previous commenter said that you quoted your response too.
It's nitpicking for holes in a statement made about the place where coverage is. Yall aren't interested in solutions to "my old man's back problems." Yall are looking for a political point to bitch about to justify shitting on a cancer vaccine.
Sorry, what does: "In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough" mean then?
It means "In America, you can get free coverage for certain things if you are broke enough but for other things, unless you have money, too bad, you're going to die?"
I'm not going to write to a person that can't read. You are literally demonstrating how you have to rewrite what was there to justify your idiotic responses.
Nothing in that sentence is a 100% guarantee and it obviously opens up the door to needing more information to tell.
That isn't the comment you left your response to either, dipshit.
I hope you get a chance to encounter uncurable cancer of your loved ones so you can have a little empathy for these moments.
Hope no longer. Several of my loved ones have died of cancer. One because they couldn't afford chemo. Which is why I know poor people can't always afford chemo in the U.S.
I hope you're very happy about two of my grandparents and one of my cousins dying of cancer since you hoped for it to happen.
Lmao, you're so full of shit. What state did your grandparents die of cancer in and when?
Sorry, are you actually trying to get me to doxx myself because you think it's such an unlikely thing that I have relatives who die of cancer?
Over half a million people die of cancer each year in the U.S. And you think I'm some sort of special person who has an entirely cancer-free family?
I'm also not sure why you hoped for me to have loved ones who died of cancer and when I told you that I did, you said I was lying about it. Isn't that what you wanted for me?
I knew you were a fucking liar.
It's doxxing to provide the details on the year of death of your grandparents?
Yea fucking right. You know the facts don't back up your bullshit story and want to worm your way away from being responsible for your lies.
You claim there are so many deaths to cancer that it would be statistically impossible for you to avoid an encounter, while simultaneously claiming that saying the year and state that your grandparents died to cancer in would be specific enough to dox you.
The enemy is too powerful yet too weak, and all truths are lies, right?
The reality is that somebody related to you dying of cancer wouldn't match up for what I wished on you. A sociopath like you who wishes against progress on cancer vaccines knows the words family but not their meaning.
Shut the fuck up.
Uh... this is what you said:
That sounds like it literally matches up. So that's a weird lie.
When did I wish against progress on vaccines? I hope there is as much progress on vaccines as possible.
If you think I ever said anything anti-vax, in this or any other thread in Lemmy ever, please do quote me because I would love to see it. Unless, of course, that was also a lie.
I'm guessing you won't actually provide any evidence to back up your silly lie, you'll just insult me some more. But feel free to prove me wrong on that.
Why did you lie about me being anti-vax?
You chimed in, saying it was bad faith to disrespect an antivax stance.
Why would you try and lie about that now? You didn't get the right comments removed to hide that bit bud.
I said no such thing. That is another lie. I said nothing about bad faith, disrespect or an antivax stance.
Why are you telling such a ridiculous lie?
It's literally the opening comment in the thread and the basis of my entire response.
You decided your exceptions to the rule were enough to discard the rule. Then bickered from there.
The start of the thread is about a person wishing a vaccine for dog cancer doesn't exist who you have decided is the correct person in this debate.
Another lie.
The opening comment on this thread is:
https://lemmy.world/comment/8195752
The comment of mine you replied to is:
https://lemmy.world/comment/8203105
It was in response to someone saying that broke people could afford any treatment in America.
Because the discussion was about medical care and its costs, not some weird anti-vax thing regarding dogs. I vaccinate my dogs like I'm supposed and like my vet recommends.
I have absolutely no idea why you are telling such ludicrous lies or trying to gaslight me about them.
Hey, look more lies.
Nobody said that, it was a strawman you made up to nitpick and spread misinformation off of.
Because you are a liar. Enjoy the block.
I literally quoted them saying it earlier. Amazing.