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Europe will lose all credibility if Russia wins in Ukraine, warns French president Macron (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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The war in Ukraine is “existential for our Europe and for France”, Mr Macron said in the interview on France 2 and TF1.

“Do you think that the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Romanians and the Bulgarians could remain at peace for a second [in the event of a Russian victory in Ukraine]?” he asked. “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We should have admitted Ukraine into NATO a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Reminder that all that bullshit about "territorial disputes" means nothing if the signatories agree to ignore it, or if they decide to live in the real world and acknowledge that an attack on a prospective member is still an attack on the alliance.

That said...

They really did have quite the corruption problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately they almost certainly still do have a large corruption problem, despite it improving in recent years.

Of course, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be supported.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

They really did have quite the corruption problem.

Yes. Unfortunately every corrupt individual and enabler of corrupt individuals bears some of the blame for why Ukraine was not accepted into NATO sooner.

As always, it's a cultural problem. Their culture needs to improve in order to reap the benefits of that improvement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm still upset that Ukraine didn't mine their border with Russia out of fears of 'escalation.'

The world really cucked Ukrainians at every step.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The whole 'border' with Crimea should have been a deathtrap. I think it came out the Ukrainian commanders there were in cahoots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That unfortunately wouldn't surprise me.

I honestly never considered how much Ukrainian corruption was the direct result of Russia, but now it all makes sense.