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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Situations like this is why countries need to setup safe immigration routes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not every country wants all immigration though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Sure everyone wants their own personal castle.

I just think people can just have some slightly less nice things, maybe instead of buying a f150 truck get a small utility vehicle, stuff like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

As somebody who also is on the fuckcars train, how the fuck did you manage to get on that topic in a response to my comment lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I just think people can just have some slightly less nice things, maybe instead of buying a f150 truck get a small utility vehicle, stuff like that.

How to tell me you're a dumb american that doesn't know Europe without telling me you're a dumb american that doesn't know Europe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

xD wow you think I'm American, you are extremely cold my friend.

I am a South African who recently ran away to the Netherlands to avoid constant load shedding and rich with sollar panels.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think you have a big image of how people in rixh countries live. Most people dont live in big houses, most people dont own trucks. Sure the average person has more things than an averga person in a poor country, but the average person is not going to sacrifice their small luxuries, so people from poor countries come to live with them, especially if the people coming dont have studies and are just going to be living frol the government's money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I bet you are fine with banks doing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in no way saying the average person should have to sacrifice anything, the problem is that is exactly what your currently being force to do by the people above you.

Just think of how many people could literally be housed for life with the money spent on Jeffs latest yacht he sailed out of Amsterdam.

Where talking orders of magnitude difference between the average person and the rich never mind those who are desperately trying to escape.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Spain already has a large immigrant population. And is accepting of refugees too.

If given the choice to freely immigrate to the developed world, what percentage of the billion of people in poverty in Africa would choose to do so?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There are. I moved from a third world country to a rich country without problems. I have now a safe job and I contribute back to society. No need to risk my life in a boat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say I did it with no problems but you can certainly do it, as long as you have everything align for you and you have what ever the people in power want 🙂

I lucked out but many of my friends have no such opertunity.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fucking lucky you mate, want a gold star?

For many people it’s not safe enough to stay where they are why they wait the 10-20 years it takes for the “official” route to let them in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You want a consolation prize?

It's not the rich countries fault that for many people its not safe in their countries. The rich countries are accepting a lot of people, and there are routes for same immigration. These countries cannot take everyone and anyone, or else they would collapse. Its not hard to understand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It’s not the rich countries fault that for many people its not safe in their countries.

Care to point out which current unsafe country doesn't have it's recent history involving Europeans fucking them over?

Also rich countries take a pittance in compared to countries neighbouring conflicts, where's your concern about sharing the load there? Rich countries can do far, far, far more than they are without collapsing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Oh one country worth mentioning is the Philippines, they got fucked over by the Americans instead XD

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Your first comment made me think I would not agree with you but you have won me over.

I come from South Africa and watching the Dutch and the amount of resources that goes to just cleaning up from a single town party it's clear that so much more can be done.

Third world countries aren't under developed they are overly exploited.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Care to point out which current unsafe country doesn’t have it’s recent history involving Europeans fucking them over?

Thailand? The only country that was never ruled by the west or in the west. Still very poor but you did ask and I answered.

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