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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

No shade intended but by any chance are you Gen Z or younger?

If so, there's some ingrained toxic social more context you might not understand because you grew up in a better society than we did.

But if you're genuinely asking...

  • Anything that acknowledges women exist? Gay
  • Anything that recognizes men in relation to others instead of as the default? Believe it or not, gay
  • Anything that involves sharing? Gay
  • Pink? Gay
  • Blue? Also gay
  • Pink and blue? Liberace
  • Diagonal lines? Gay
  • The male/female Mars/Venus signs? Gay
  • The Venus sign on a blue background? Lesbian
  • Mars sign on a pink background? Flaming gay
  • Two men standing near each other? friends of Dorothy
  • Two men holding a flag together? Gay
  • The way the one guy is pinching the corner? Super fucking gay
  • Wearing a teal shirt? Gay
  • Wearing a yellow tie? Gay

I could keep going but I think you might get the picture.

Edit: formatting

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I still have relatives that say "ugh that's gay" to mean "I don't like that".

I don't speak to these relatives anymore.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It took me years to break that habit. I also worked really hard not to use the r word to mean I think something is fucking stupid.

It was common to use both of those when I was a kid. It didn't occur to me at the time that it might hurt someone (again, stupid kid). I've still caught myself using the r word on a rare occasion but I can keep trying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I used to say it, cause it was my environment in a very lgbtphobic area around lgbtphobic people to fit in, stopped saying it cause I don't want to spread hate, and started using it again, cause it is my environment in a very gay friend group and gay girlfriend cause it feels funny and good to reclaim it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I get exactly what you're saying. I'm a hetero dude but I'm around a lot of LGBTQ folks, many of whom are my friends. If something is literally homosexual (like my friend kissing her girlfriend or someone wearing a T-shirt with a homosexual themed graphic) I'll still say "That's gay!" There's at least a couple of people who use the phrase to mean that certain things are awesome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Exactly! We also like to poke fun at it ever being a "bad" thing. One of our running gags with each other, my partner and I, is to respond to something/event by saying "I think I might be gay" and the other one of us will feign horror.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It's still common for people to use "narcissist" as an insult when it's the name of a mental disorder.

[–] GroteStreet 8 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nope. 67 and doing my best since high school to be inclusive in my thinking.

I guess I just don't get how anyone other than a toxic fuck or at least a thoughtless stereotyper could say that most of what you point out of indicates gayness.

Someone else went through a "symbolic analysis" that helps me see some of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

a toxic fuck or at least a thoughtless stereotyper

That’s like everyone back when I was in school, me included.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, point taken. The toxic fuckery I saw and experienced and probably propogated in school is likely why I've put in effort to be better.