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Edited below. I imagine many of us are here from reddit, where hashtags weren't really a thing and in many places mentions were actively discouraged (/r/politics I'm looking at you). However, since everything we post or comment on kbin (and lemmy) has the potential of getting federated on a mastodon server, which leans heavily on hashtags and mentions, should we be promoting the use of hashtags and mentions, in an effort to-- I dunno-- kind of tie everything together a little more neatly?

If the answer is "yeah, we probably should" then I'd also suggest that there be an option added to the settings to auto-populate the hashtags associated with the magazine to every post and another to add them to every top-level comment, very similar to how we have the option to auto-populate mentions for posts and comments.

Does this "Tags" field, when making a new thread/post, actually do anything with respect to this, or is that more for kbin-related stuff?

Oh, and, uh... #hashtags #kbin #fediverse

Feels weird to do that.

Edit: So, I did some brief testing, and have noted the following:

  • Hashtags associated with the magazine are auto-populated at the end of the mastodon snippet.
  • Hashtags added to the tags field are likewise added to the end of the mastodon snippet.
  • Hashtags in the body text are seen as hashtags, but for reasons that might just be mastodon weirdness, searching for the hashtag doesn't display the associated post.
  • Hashtags in the body but more than ~350 characters into the body (i.e., past the point the snippet cuts it off) do not display.

Edit2: Mostly unrelated, but when I mention the "snippet" above, it seems like it is created by the first ~350 characters of the first paragraph. That is to say, if your first paragraph is 10 characters, then a blank line, then 100 more characters-- the snippet will only be 10 characters long.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, #Hashtags are important. Without the hashtag #Fediverse, I wouldn't have seen this post, for example.

@effingjoe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assume this is through Mastodon? I think you could've if you subscribed to the kbin meta magazine, but of course hashtags make things more visible for other platforms. On kbin you wouldn't search too much through hashtags, but I think they also help with search indexing. My only issue with them is that they can often get abused quickly through hashtag spam, especially of particular viral topics, which might not even be related to whatever someone is posting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe that anything submitted to a magazine basically has an automatic hashtag for that magazine's name, which is then searchable on Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afaik you can sub to them like you'd do to a user. Not entirely sure though as I don't really use Twitter like social media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's pretty neat; I didn't realize that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think you could've if you subscribed to the kbin meta magazine

I don't think that's how it works. Looking at the magazine from mastodon, I don't see any posts nor boosts. It's just empty. I doubt following the magazine from mastodon helps at all with discovering content on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

kbin magazines seem to work like groups on Mastodon. Once you follow them, posts from them will start appearing in your timeline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I see, wasn't aware that's a thing. Is it normal for group profiles to not show any posts (since that's the case with /kbin meta at least) directly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they look empty before subscribing, after which new posts should be displayed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@LollerCorleone @effingjoe @montag @DarkThoughts @Pamasich
Huh the one I follow still wont refresh. Case in point https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]. Lemmy does self boost from magazine so I can see why you would see, but kbin does not do that....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That works for Lemmy, but with kbin you need to follow a magazine's hashtags.