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Is there a programming language specifically designed for interacting with SQL databases that avoids the need for Object-Relational Mappers (ORMs) to solve impedance mismatch from the start?

If such a language exists, would it be a viable alternative to PHP or Go for a web backend project?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Argh, your comment is such a pet peeve of mine, especially since my SQL knowledge is kinda arse (it's #1 of my todo list to learn): "just use raw SQL" is a terrible answer, because newbies now still don't know how to not use an ORM (and building classes is what they tend to know, so using a wrapper like Django or SQL Alchemy is ez pz).

How do I learn to use raw SQL, as a way to not use ORMs. Yes, learning SQL is step 1, but what is step 2? How am I going to do migrations, without having to manually run stuff, because manual work is faulty work. How am I going to track changes in my model, over time?

Sorry if I sound frustrated, because I am.