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Would a Federation warship like the Defiant out gun a Star Wars Star Destroyer? Who has a bigger armada? Who has the tactical advantage? Don't forget that The Federation includes the Klingons, who love warfare and have fast, agile, heavily armed ships, with cloaking devices, and the Vulcans with superior logic and tactical planning.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Star Trek has vastly better sensors, shielding, weapons and science.

Sensors: they can detect the atmosphere and cargo inside a ship as well as how many individuals are in it. SW can't detect when an entire ship has docked to the hull.

Science: and then they can beam a person out of it. They can screw with any technology while transporting too.

Shielding: ISDs and Death Star can't keep fighter and the millennium falcon from running around inside their shield envelope. Federation shields give them the option to block crafting from passing.

Weapons: They made bombs that break space itself, and then apparently almost everyone agreed to ban them because its a stupidly dangerous idea.

Science 3: Genesis Device. Oh great you can destroy a planet. The Federation can create an entire solar system with a bomb.

Science 4: Federation developed a matter phasing cloak. Romulans made personal cloaks.

The only advantage the Empire has is numbers of ISDs. Even then, if the empire makes the wrong move they'll piss off the Dominion or the Borg, and the empire literally can't touch the borg.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Idk what youre basing your star wars knowledge off, but you are wrong. It sounds like just the movies.

There is a lot more in the EU that would demolish the Federation.

Do you know about Resurrected Palpatine and his ship the Eclipse?

Or the fact he can create a force maelstrom?

Or inhabit a clone body?

(fuck Disney)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Thank you. It’s not a proper Trek vs. Wars thread until someone busts out the canon card. I can’t believe it took 5 hours!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'm assuming they know. I think what they were saying is there is a lot of cool (and powerful) stuff in the EU, which Disney chose to ignore and come up with their own bullshit, which they listed. Taking a stab at Disney more than this debate.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

Disney isnt canon. The rest is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh, the Eclipse. Yeah, the ship that the rebels stole and then blew up?

Federation captains deal with Q, some on a regular basis. Palpatine can somehow he came back against a being that is everything he wishes he was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Now I want a cross over movie consisting just of Q making Palpatine miserable. Ending with Palpatine sighing in relief when Q finally gets bored just for Trelane to arrive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, they blew it up with plot armor bombs lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Science 3: Genesis Device. Oh great you can destroy a planet. The Federation can create an entire solar system with a bomb.

And the Feringi made it better with a paywall

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but Star Was has religion. Obi Wan can "sense" when Alderaan was blown up. Vader can "sense" the presence of Obi-Wan.

All those "sensors" and "science" don't mean much in the face of "bUt iTs mAgIc!"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

Obi Wan can “sense” when Alderaan was blown up. Vader can “sense” the presence of Obi-Wan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

SW also has a long distance speed advantage too. They travel around the entire galaxy while the federation takes months to get from one side of the federation to the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

As far as I understand it though, their hyperspace is the same as ST's subspace network used by the Borg. It's very fast, but it only works on existing lanes. So while theoretically a SW ship is faster, it's only if they're using a known route. Which only exist in their galaxy.

Unlike ST though, SW ships can't map out hyperspace paths with sensors but have to do so manually via manned ship.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I feel we'd have to account for their travel technology too. ST warp drives are considerably more versatile than specific hyperspace engines, especially if they end up fighting in ST space.