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So ddg is down, so I visit Google. It's been some years.

I just can't believe how poor it's results are, and how it's trying to suggest things it think I might also want (and failing miserably).

I just assumed ddg would be the lesser, but I use it for privacy. Turns out I'm wrong.

How long has Google been this bad?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I've collected these 3 so far, but Swiss Cows if you go deep enough uses Bing. I'm not sure about Mojeek or Start Page.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have good experience with brave search, after I moved away from the crap Qwant actually is

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Qwant is that bad? I remember hearing decent things about it a few years ago but I never got around to trying it because it's blocked in my country for some god forsaken reason.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's exactly one of the reasons why I find it shit. It's not blocked in my country but as soon I need to go abroad, can't use it anymore. There's more reasons why it sucks and some of them are recent

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's exactly one of the reasons why I find it shit. It's not blocked in my country but as soon I need to go abroad, can't use it anymore. There's more reasons why it sucks and some of them are recent

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Swisscows does use Bing, Startpage uses Bing and/or Google depending upon where you are, we are fully independent: https://www.searchenginemap.com/ is a visualisation that might be useful

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So is Mojeek a standalone since it's yellow? It looks like a lot of other people use them and not the other way around. Yep is cool, but I think they get their money from the sites that pay them? I looked at it yesterday, it's sort of a strange set up that I'm not sure I understand.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yes we are indeed a standalone, the sizes of bubbles are reflections of the number of index-usage relationships yep is attached to ahrefs: https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/03/yep-search-engine/ where I can speak to where results come from, I couldn't tell you about their model

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mojeek gives good results, I'll keep trying it. I'm not sure about yep though, how do the people get paid? I didn't see any sign up. It sounds like it's a platform for their SEO subscribers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

sorry for taking a while to get back but the main source of mojeek revenue is api sales, having people pay to access results for different applications (bing does similar i.e. duckduckgo, qwant, ecosia)

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's interesting and a decent way to do it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I believe Startpage uses Google