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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Still no plans/pricing for Proton Pass Family (only the full proton suite).

Proton is missing many users with this simple lack of effort; not everyone wants drive, vpn, etc.

Some folks just want a password manager for the immediate and extended family; and often times we are willing to just pay a few bucks extra per month and not worry about helping these people after they get hacked, due to terrible passwords.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well,.Bitwarden is here for you. You can even self host Bitwarden and skip fees all together if you feel so inclined at some point.

[–] hitmyspot 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I find password sharing between family or others poor on bitwarden. It segments all the password vaults and then defaults all new into one. Very hard to change. It would be better to be able to choose zones or similar for sharing so I could have a personal vault, a family vault and a work vault and able to access all seamlessly. I would own all but be able to share as appropriate.

While this is possible to do its not seamless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's what organizations are for in Bitwarden. They are groups you can give passwords to instead of your personal vault and people in said organizations can then see them just as their own passwords. That's exactly what you described, no?

[–] hitmyspot 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I use them but it doesn't work smoothly. I cannot easily add a password to my organisations from my personal account within a browser, even when setting up first time. If someone shares an organization vault with me, it can easily be accessed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why can't you? I don't see where the issue is. During password creation, you choose your organization and it's done. If the entry already exists, edit the entry and choose the organization under "owner". It's four clicks max. Do you use this so differently than I do?

[–] hitmyspot 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

9 times out of 10 password creation is one click with no prompt or indication that its for any particular vault. Not intuitive at all. I do it but less techy family or work colleagues, no, they don't.

I also don't see an option to save to both at once. So hard to share between users that have different access levels when there is crossover.

Perhaps I'm missing something. My personal use case is Personal passes

Family passes

Family passes, kids access

Work passes all

Work passes personal

Work passes admin (higher security)

Work passes customer facing

Work passes clinical

So if I use a service at work but also on my kids ipad computer I need to created 2 seperste entries manually. I don't want my work to have access to kids vault and likewise I don't want my kid to have access to work vault. That's just an easy example. There are many more cases like that for different work users a d not having cross access with other users. So it defaults to their personal account but they need access to joint accounts or department accounts. When theybsave something new, it saves to their personal.