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    Firefox on Debian stable is so old that websites yell at you to upgrade to a newer browser. And last time I tried installing Debian testing (or was it debian unstable?), the installer shat itself trying to make the bootloader. After I got it to boot, apt refused to work because of a missing symlink to busybox. Why on earth do they even need busybox if the base install already comes with full gnu coreutils? I remember Debian as the distro that Just Wroks(TM), when did it all go so wrong? Is anyone else here having similar issues, or am I doing something wrong?

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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Debian is working as intended. You are wanting to use Ubuntu or Mint if you want more up to date packages.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    If the user really wants a new browser, Flatpak is always an option.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

    They also have a .deb you can manually update as well.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    They can just use Flatpak as it will be the newest outside of Arch. Alternatively they could run Distrobox with something like Fedora.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I stopped using flatpak when I found out both I had to update outside of the package manager. Also using flatpak gave me some issues with my sound card, so I just run the .deb. To each their own though, which is why I love Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

    Installing outside packages is generally not a good idea. You can use Distrobox with a upstream distro like Fedora or you can use Debian Back ports.

    https://backports.debian.org/

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Had forgotten about backports. Need to get that set back up. Thank you for the reminder.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

    It is fairly easy to use

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

    mxlinux is my goto, and if you need something current there us always flatpak for most popular apps