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[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

No one, either in comments, nor in article, actually touches on form factor. The fact is that sedans are only good for moving people, but there's better options for that: like cycling or train. The real benefit of an SUV's form factor (or pickup, or station wagon, or hatchback) is that you can move cargo with it, the kind of stuff that you can't move with efficient people movers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I move more shit with my hatchback civic than most people do with their pickup trucks and SUVs you don't need a fucking SUV to do things, you just need a functional brain

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I've done contracting, dump runs and fit an ice sled with a 2 man pop up hut and gear for overnight on the ice in a nissan micra. The low height actually makes it easier compared to a pick up or most SUVs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

The point that you kind of touch on in your comment, is that SUV's generally aren't better than a hatchback/wagon. In my experience, most SUV's aren't efficiently using their space, so they feel more luxurious to ride in, but have horrible cargo storage. @[email protected] talked on his podcast about being picked up (with his wife) from the airport in a huge SUV (I think it was an Escalade) and being unable to get their luggage in the trunk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Hey, if we don't have any cargo to transport, maybe it's just... not a factor worth discussing for the vast majority of us?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You clearly have never owned a hatchback

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Pretty much the perfect form factor in my opinion. Put the back seat down when you need to transport cargo, up for people. Really practical. If you want to do camping trips or road trips where you need to move four people with cargo, you can get one with a towing hook.

The one thing it's not great at in my experience is transporting babies around. There's just not quite enough space for the car seat, stroller, two parents and assorted diapers and stuff. We can make it work, but it's quite uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Brinley at S&P Global Mobility says the rise of SUVs is a reflection of consumers' desire to get greater utility out of their vehicles, which means the capacity to move more people and cargo.

Adams said when choosing a vehicle, most SUV buyers don't make their decision based on something that's going to satisfy "95 to 99 per cent" of their driving needs, which is commuting and running errands.

"They purchase their vehicle for the one weekend of the year when 'I tow my boat up to the lake and I want to make sure I can do that,'" he said, noting "it is ironic when they make that purchase and then complain about high gas prices."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Man, people need to look at renting for that one weekend a year what if more...