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‘Your heart races a bit’: US weather man threatened with death for mentioning climate crisis
(www.theguardian.com)
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You could say the same for many Americans, not just republicans in my experience. Its like a stew of immaturity and ignorance.
...which is exactly why they do it, of course. People arguing on the side of science have to make sound arguments in order to persuade, but all the reactionaries have to do is to frustrate their opponent into giving up on the discussion and they win by default. It's fundamentally dishonest and toxic.
Yes, one side is pretty much full evil, but how many politicians in congress on both sides come to a halt on progress when their pocket liners are threatened. This is a game to all of them. Corporations run this country using every politician in our 2 party system as their puppets. How much insider trading goes on, who's being paid by who? Our entire system needs to be burnt down and rebuilt for anything to function as it should.
That's not gonna end well without a viable and executable alternative. Usually you'll end up with a lot of chaos, some party promising to ease it, followed by that party turning out to be a dictatorship.
Frankly, it's amazing we have something close to a democracy at all.
Except climate change IS real, and if you say its fake, you are wrong. Lol. Its not an opinion. What you're positing here has nothing to do with the reality.
And a right wing person can take that sentence and turn it around. They have a whole lore to back up the claim too.
When you dig deep enough into the claims, it becomes clear which is fact. Most people don't have the time to do that so they stick to what's in their beliefsystem or fits within it.
They think people who believe in climate change are brainwashed zombies, in an ironic backward twist. This also seems to be the case with many things and it's probably intentionally done by the propagandists.
The whole country seems to be polarized left/right, red/blue. Their side is right about everything and the other side is wrong about everything. That's where American politics has led us. Culture war to keep us from starting a class war.
Have you paid any attention to what the sides actually say?
More a question of what they do than what they say. They can say everything in the world I want to hear, but to follow through? That comes to a stop when their corporate pocket liners threaten to remove their funding.
Well, one side is promising to take away a bunch of people's rights, and they're certainly following through on their promises.
Democrats suck when it comes to simping for the rich, but when it comes to civil rights, the rule of law, and respect for democracy, the parties could not be more starkly different
Well yeah they're regressive religious zealots. As I said in another comment somewhere else in this thread. Civil rights and respect for democracy I will agree with. Rule of law applies to none of our government. 97 members of Congress last year reported trades in companies influenced by their commitees. They were not all Republicans. This is a conflict of interest and they should be removed.
I'm not railing on one side or the other, I have liberal viewpoints and I have conservative viewpoints. I'm railing on the government as a whole. It needs to be rebuilt. My initial point was that everyone is super polarized and that is a problem that needs to be fixed before anything else gets fixed.
Case in point, this thread. I make a comment criticizing Republicans = +20. I make a comment criticizing Democrats = I don't even know, like -45 at this point?
People here are obviously polarized to the left. Granted, yes Republicans in office are bat shit crazy anymore, there is zero tolerance for any criticism towards the other side. And that just blinds anyone from paying attention to real matters. Half the people I know just treat it like a sports team they support. And this is why I generally stay away from discussing politics and have learned my lesson about posting anything political here.
Again, you're overlooking a huge difference. Yes, both sides benefit from a legal loophole that let's them engage in insider trading. But one party tried to literally overthrow the government because they lost an election and then seamlessly pivoted to lying constantly about the results of the election. One party's leading candidate for president is literally promising institute party political purges of civil servants if he's elected. One party has a bunch of heavily armed rednecks swearing personal loyalty to its leader. Do you think insider trading is even worth talking about when that other shit is happening right out in the open?
Yep and what do you think is gonna happen to Trump or any other member of Congress that took part for all of that? Nothing, because the rule of law doesn't apply to them. The Democrats won't push hard enough and the Republicans will whip their moron fan base into more of a frenzy. The point I'm trying to convey is the whole system is fucked and needs to be undone and rebuilt. Climate change doesn't actually matter a damn to either side while they're busy fighting each other and trying to find new ways to line their pockets. Hell several Dems disrupted votes on green deals because they have a stake in fossil fuels. The government should be serving its people and their interests, not fighting itself.
I'm done posting here, off to look at pictures of dogs.
Climate change is real. Doesn't matter how political or non political you are. If one side is using politics to try and say its not real, that's not a "both sides" issue. That's an issue with the side that's denying reality.
I never said it wasn't real. And they don't need to say it's not real, they vote where the money is. Several Dems have stood in the way of green deals passing in the past. The infighting within the democratic party will be the death of it, while the bat shit crazy Republicans will just continue boosting their moronic fan base. This is the reality of our government. It needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
The only politician I've even remotely resonated with is Sanders, and the DNC made for damn sure he didn't make it in there.
All of your whataboutism is pointless. The Republican party's position is that climate change isn't real. There's no two sides - nothing Democrats do is causing Republicants to say climate change is a hoax. Republicans are saying reality is fake all on their own. They are wrong. And they are threatening to kill people for saying reality is real. They are wrong about climate change.