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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Remember:

  1. The effort needed to babysit the LLM to ensure it is producing the correct output is always equal to the effort needed to do the work yourself, and,
  2. The computer is only ever as smart as the idiot who punched its deck in the first place.
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not really. Just going to post a comment I post whenever this topic comes up, related to how our company utilities it as software developers / engineers.

Sure they make mistakes, but even when wrong it still gives a good start. Meaning in writing less syntax.

Particularly for boring stuff.

Example: My boss is a fan of useMemo in react, not bothered about the overhead, so I just write a comment for the repetitive stuff like sorting easier to write

// Sort members by last name ascending

And then pressing return a few times. Plus with integration in to Visual Studio Professional it will learn from your other files so if you have coding standards it’s great for that.

Is it perfect? No. Does it same time and allow us to actually solve complex problems? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Yep. I use it to scaffold, rubber duck, and comment. I check it after but it does a pretty good job at that. It gives slightly better feedback than the stuffed bear on my desk and the comments are usually pretty good.

In addition, I'll write up a big ol' presentation that needs to be summarized but I'm not great at self editing. So I'll feed it through and have it give me an elevator pitch, an executive summary, and a shorter presentation. It does a passable job with very few edits for that.

It's definitely not going to replace me. It can't do my job or even anything close. But it has helped me be better at my job the same way that VS Code and PyCharm make things faster and better than just typing in Notepad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Right. I use it every day and I'm probably 600% more productive now. What's shocking to me is the apparent difference in quality between ChatGPT and Google's AI. ChatGPT is incredibly useful. Google's AI seems dangerous and ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

"punched its deck" i love this

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I don't think its ALWAYS true that the effort is equal. I think that for important things that need to have very low error rates it is going to be equal or exceed. But if you are doing creative writing and have writers block. Generative AI can help give ideas that can be helpful even if wrong because you can identify why they are wrong which might point you in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago

You know... people give Google's AI assistant a lot of shit, but this recipe was fire. 🔥

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, didn't they put up a fence to keep people from jumping?

Smh my head

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Not a fence, a net. So it now just really hurts when you jump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, they have a flotilla of boats covered with mattresses to catch those that get through the fence. But they don't have enough boats yet, so the success rate of catching people of diminishing altitude is only about 20%.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There should be two images there!

But here's a 3rd just because:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That is 2.

The first is smoke 2-3 cigs a day while pregnant. The second is jump off a bridge if you are feeling depressed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm just dumb and didn't see that it was 2 separate images

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

All good. It took me a minute to notice it was 2 separate images.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how long it will take for Google to pull the plug of that feature. I mean, this is hilarious of course so there's that, but I'm pretty sure that relying on the awareness of the user to fix the oopsie woopsies is not a good idea. This will end badly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

For everything deadly answer that is also hilarious and obviously wrong for most people, there might be tens or hundreds of deadly answers that are not as obvious for a significant percentage of the users.

I is just a question of when Googles artificial "intelligence" will kill someone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Probably not until they see a lawsuit

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

How are more people not on board with this?

Its the perfect way to train a new generation that they shouldn't trust everything they read online

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

These have to be fake right... please tell me they are fake.... please

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I thought they must be photoshopped....but then I messed around with it just now for, like, a minute:

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Okay you can't post that and not tell us the best recipe for hockey pucks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

To be fair, anything is edible at least once.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're very real. There's also one telling people to eat glue, which got a lot of attention recently. Lol

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The actually scary thing is when the AI suggestions become less ridiculous. It seems very unlikely for anyone to try to sauté garlic in gasoline, but at a certain point these suggestions are going to sound more reasonable but be equally as dangerous. Say, what medication is safe. Or what to do in an emergency. Those are the things that are going to get people killed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm extremely surprised we haven't seen the Ai telling people that mixing vinegar and bleach makes a killer cleaner

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

That's pretty wild but it's not quite suggesting you mix them. And I run vinegar in my washing machine regularly and never had any problems on the rare occasions I use bleach instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well in all fairness it would be, just think how clean the person lungs would be.

I would guess that it is to busy suggesting ammonia and bleach.

Actually I looked and at least Google passes the don't mix poisonous gasses in you home test. Maybe not a high bar, but hell the floor has to be somewhere right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Bleach is such a fun ingredient! Did you know if you mix bleach and rubbing alcohol you get chloroform?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Those are the things that are going to get people killed.

And Google will be held accountable right.... Right?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Is it known where the LLM got this one from?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Their ass, presumably Edit: Someone elses ass, presumably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

They're not creative enough to pull things out of their metaphorical ass. They can only mindlessly spew what they've seen somewhere before.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

All that useless reddit data.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

OP didn't precondition their query with the requirement of living through making and consuming the spaghetti.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

What in the actual fuck? How is Google not facing massive fines every day that they allow this abomination to exist online?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I love how confident it is

"I am telling you for the last time, no you cant"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm thinking it will be a while before AI can take over the world - considering it currently has the intelligence of a newborn monkey.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Though before that happens, it might launch all the nukes because someone asks it to boost rocket power and forgets to specify just for a rocket design they are working on.