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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I don't believe there was disrespect. Things were absolutely taken out of context."

The old out-of-context handjob in a theater. Who among us hasn’t been taken out of context in that way?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Context was the brand of her date's pants.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

LOL, the magabrains just hate it when they don't have a platform that just lets them lie and lie and lie.

The notion that someone can push back, even if ever so gently, triggers them endlessly. Beetlebert is such a snowflake.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The way she speaks it's like her words have no meaning. Nonsensical bullshit woman.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It's not the crime, but the coverup. So much of this would be a non-issue if she'd simply owned it, rather than talking out of both sides of her mouth.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“Private moment” as in being out in public at a well attended event… How dare people hold her accountable for her actions and treat her as the vile individual she is? /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

She's also acting like it was some kind of spy video...

Wasn't it just like, normal security cameras that are always running?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

for somebody who wants the government to be heavily into policing bedrooms she seems kind of upset that she's being shamed by the public.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

That was only looked at in the first place because she was caught vaping in a crowded theater, then had the nerve to deny it and lash out at the workers for having the audacity to call her out on it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Kyle Clark is a Colorado treasure. I watched his show almost every night since 2018 until I moved out of Colorado. He is witty, insightful and just the right amount of sarcastic. I hope he is still on air when I finally go back home

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“… I'm apologizing for you, Kyle Clark, for getting video and releasing that and people seeing it in a very private moment.”

lmfao.. these dipshits always try the uno reverse “no u” response and it literally never works. Reminds me of when MTG told a BBC reporter “you’re a conspiracy theorist”, cursed her out, and then stormed off. Boebert is just the pathetic screeching version of this instead of the roid rage version.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not a private moment? It's the audience of a musical production.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I agree, and the footage was from security cameras in very much so public places. That block of text was a quote.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Are all debates in America just 2 people talking over each other so no one can understand anything?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Go look up the debates between Biden and Trump from the 2020 campaign. Biden literally had to ask Trump to "shut up" on stage. The Cheeto-dusted dipshit literally could not stop interrupting. How embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, way too many people view Gish Gallop style "debates" to be the only way to have a debate. Shouting someone else down is viewed as "powerful" and the sign of a real leader or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Debate perverts, they're called.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think the rules are typically negotiable in advance, especially when it's down to just 2 contenders.

Debates have the potential to show more than eloquence or intelligence, they also show soft skills like whether the candidate can control the conversation, control under pressure, how easily they succumb when bullied, and give the audience an opportunity to read their body language, which may develop (or remove) trust.

Biden famously told Trump in a debate: "would you shut up, man?" And in that moment quite a few Americans were swayed to select him believing he's not susceptible to getting run over by trump mouth diarrhea attack like so many other politicians are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

As an American I'm ashamed to say political discourse here has devolved into "who shouts louder", both among the politicians and the constituents.

It's unfortunately a lesson many of us learned in preschool, and yet it seems more congruent with voters across most demographics...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yeah its like the jerry springer model or something. People here argue and react; they don't debate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The right cannot debate. They would get absolutely obliterated in a debate. The only thing they can do is get loud, sling insults and lie. It's like an adult trying to argue with a spoiled second grader that wasn't allowed to have desert after dinner.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And our "media" is complicit. This is only newsworthy because the moderator tried to press (heh) her instead of just letting her get her talking points (lies) in and moving on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yep. I think it was CNN that helped refine the "shout show". I remember a book written in the mid 00's by someone that was involved with that and trying to make up for it.

Of course a lot of daytime television did the same thing, although I don't know how much influence they have these days...but anyway, a forum in which points are awarded to the person that shouts the loudest, and gets the last word in, or some sick burn is apparently the way a lot of people think debate is conducted.

Those of us that are not letting logical fallacies guide all of our thought processes know this for the sham it is, but unfortunately, critical thinking is not something encouraged at all levels in our society. I honestly think being able to spot logical fallacies is something every high school graduate should have, and a real liberal media, if we actually had one, would constantly reiterate and reinforce.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

She was simply giving directions to the restrooms and utilizing her longest finger for visibility

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I guess she doesn’t know what “expected level of privacy” law means yet. She will though if she tries to pursue it. Anything outside of a bathroom or private owned business you can’t sue someone for filming footage as you can’t expect privacy. Or maybe she knows this so caustic words is all she can think to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't imagine even a privately owned business would qualify for privacy. I don't expect any privacy when I'm walking around in Walmart.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's about public access. If the public is generally allowed in a space, you have no expectation of privacy in that space. Anyone can have an eidetic memory, which is as good as having a camera in their hand. If they can hear it, see it, or reach it from a public space, you can't consider it secure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ok so for any of you confused about what would be an expected level of privacy while recording people in public with a cel phone:

The person working the back office of Walmart crunching numbers where customers aren’t allowed has an expected level of privacy.

The people using the bathroom in Walmart also have expected level of privacy.

The people in the changing room has an expected level of privacy.

If you were caught with a cel phone recording in any of these circumstances you could be persecuted for violating privacy.

If however you’re walking around on the main floor of Walmart recording a person looking at the price on a can of beans, you’re safe from legal prosecution as far as privacy laws (although that isn’t to say you are safe from being charged as a stalker or harassment in a certain context) .

And legally you could record what cops are doing out in public.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My favorite part was at the end, when he simply ignored her and moved on.

It’ll be nice when she loses her seat. Some unwatchable “news” network might hire her, but eventually she’ll fade into obscurity, which is where she belongs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not a news network, she will be on OnlyFans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Am I not supposed to be using OnlyFans as my primary news source?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

HOOO-WEEEE, look at her go!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I love how some people have 'private moments' in public. It's like we don't matter on their planet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I cringed so hard the inside of myself is on the outside and the outside is in the inside. I am now extroverted. Nice to meet you, we should hang out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

As a cringetologist I have to inform you, that you actually turned yourself into a black hole and emerged from a white hole in this mirror universe.
Congratulations, you are now extroverted and trust me, you will need all the friends you can find up in here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (20 children)

These news sites have gotta be purposely using photos where she looks like a blowup doll.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It might just be difficult to get a photo of her that doesn't look like a hooting gibbon.

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